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It's crunch time for me. I have to decide between a B18C or a H22 swap into my civic. I'm dead sick of the D16 that's in it at the moment.































Now, I thought I'd better outlay my 'needs' so you can gauge what I'm after. Basically I want a quick car that can be my daily drive. I want to be able to turn corners (heard it becomes a problem with the H22? I will be upgrading suspension eventually though), I'm not going to be doing street racing, but taking it to the strip dyno and getting times and stats would be an option. Here's probably the most important bit: I am going to turbocharge the engine.































I think a lot of people will say B18C, although I'm definitely leaning towards the H22. I just really need to know how bad it makes the handling. The engine is a bit cheaper, and they're known to pull pretty impressive numbers, so it's definitely got me at this stage.































Help would be much appreciated. Cheeeeerrrssss.

I would go with the H22 becouse its more powerfull.

An "H22" is a 2.2 Liter Honda engine. Nothing really too special about it other than it's 40 lb difference and the .4L size over the almighty 1.8L "B18C."















If you take a cradle, front suspension, and engine out of a Malibu, 3.1L, and put it in that little civic of yours, you will get the same hp as a "modded" 2.2 and better handling also. All I have to say is to forget that 4 cylinder crap that was embedded in your brain the first time you watched need for speed and upgrade to a genre that has a few more balls than a 2 year old.

HOLY CRAP! Do NOT go with the H22. I have a Prelude. If you want to turbo, the H22 is about the worst thing you could do. You would first have to sleeve the engine, which is just extra money. Then you might be able to push 6-12 psi, which isn't a whole lot. When the engine gets older (if you don't already buy a used one) you'll start blowing rods. Pick up any tuner mag, get on any honda forum, you'll hear the same thing. If you're buying the engine new (refurb) then, yeah, you could sleeve it, drop the compression, and boost it enough to make you happy. But it's a time bomb. The D16 is another option, but it's not your only one. You can do a lot with Civics. One option, google search "G23". Some crazy dude in Cali got a H22 and an F24? (can't remember what F series that he used) drunk and developed their love child into the G23. It was in ImportTuner mag about 6 months ago. Or, you could hop on Honda-Tech.com and look at posts/ask members, and they can help you make a sound decision.































As for "Shawn" as soon as Chevy stops making the Cobalt "SS", I'll begin paying attention to them again. The Blue Devil redeemed them only slightly. Also, I'd like to see a 6cyl that boasts 2hp per cubic inch like the S2000's engine does. Furthermore, I don't want to look it up right now, but does the Malibu's trans linkage even match up? Maybe it does, but I'm too tired to look it up.

if your considering dropping the dime for a b18c motor.. or doing a h22 swap.. you need to reconsider your options.. their is a reason these motors aren't produced anymore.. their obsolete.. if you have the money for a b18c swap.. you can just as easily do a J32 swap.. a friend of mine from jacksonville fl did a J32 swap in a EG hatch.. he kept up with me on my cbr600f4i i had at the time































pros.. more weight over the front wheels.. 260hp stock (easily upgradeable /w centrifugal supercharger kit from jackson racing), 232 lb-ft stock.. won't affect suspension like the H22































cons.. still a little pricy as the swap is new.. usually runs around$1000 more than a K swap

Boosting an H22 is highly unrecomended without internal work, if boost is what you want then go with the b series, either one will be heavier than the d16 but if your upgrading suspension then you shouldnt worry much, I personally went with a B18c JDM Type R for my 92 Hatch, and I ran 13.2 with Megan headers and a Hondata S300

the B18C is the better engine, the H22A is less tuneable and heavier, and stock only puts out a few horses more than the B18C. the B18C will cost alot more though, dont confuse the B18C1 with it, the C1 is the acura integra gsr engine, the B18C is the JDM integra type-r.































the front/rear wieght distribution will be put of in the civic with a H22, so bear that in mind, it will most likely result in more understeer. the H22 are not good for forced induction with stock internals, whereas a B18 would be alot more capable with a turbo. you WILL have issues with a turbo H22.































so go for theJDM B18C, but it will cost you around £1800+ for a complete engine with dizzy, loom etc, before labour charges are added onto that....

h22's have good power but don't the varity of different transmissions like a short geared b16 or long geared ls tranny

well THERE IS ALWAYS pros and cons to everything... if it was me... i would just stick with the B.... THe H is great... for a fact... but to put the H in you would have to just customize a lil.. not too hard done it b4.... I guess im just a B man .....thats why i said id go for B.... I think if you gunna go out and all out for the engine .. . go with B.. but if u wanna just go for all motor go with the H.... Cause thats just what ill do.... Imj just saying me ....

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