Honda Car Forum

will i waste more gas if i put 17" rims and 205/40 tires on my civic that comes with 14" 185/35 tires on it???and if i switch back to the smaller size later will it make a diff on my gas??

No but you will have to have your speedometer recalibrated.

Yes, you'll waste more gas, but i don't think that you could visibly notice.

no your gas mileage wont be much different, thats mostly 4x4s that get jacked up and stuff

In a nut shell, yes. However the conversion you are referring to will have little effect on the gas mileage because the diameter is only going to be slightly increased. The real effects come with the big tires and rims that trucks like to use where they will go from a 30" diameter wheel and tire to a 40" diameter or larger and the unsprung weight in in the vicinity of 600 pounds. This can reduce fuel economy by as much as 25%.

if you get wheels that were lighter than the original then no you won't but if you get heavier wheels then yes you will

no,if any thing it will be better,large your wheels the less rpm

Putting a bigger size wheel/tire is JUST LIKE putting a larger gear ratio in your axle or putting a bigger sprocket on your dirtbike. And yea it will make you burn a little bit more gas. Being that 17 inch rims are taller in diameter they will make it like a higher gear sure your RPMs will be lower but thats not what burns gas. Your engine will have to work harder to turn those wheels because of their diameter and their weight increase.If two trucks travel 500 miles, one has a camper on it and one doesnt which truck is going to burn more gas???Thats my theory for why MPG is not a correct way to measure an engines life. It should be how much gas it burnt.

I studied AutoMechanics in college. the answer is - it depends. Increasing your tire size increases rolling distance and resistance for wheels. To maintain speed with a larger distance, your engine has to work harder to produce the same result (it's a bunch of messy calculations- trust me).Now, this matters when you have a car with say... 100 horsepower and you're 2 or 3+ sizing your tires. Your civic engine is going to have to work A LOT harder to produce the same horse power. [ if it's stock, your running somewhere around 110 HP give-or-take the model, fuel type, maintainence, ect]. The same goes for braking somewhat.An example where it wouldn't matter much is a 500HP Corvette or Acura NSX. It won't show because horsepower/torque will succumb the difference.If you plus size that much, be sure to tweak your engine a bit... especially on a civic - not a hard task at all. You won't notice in performance or gas-milage as much.Plus, if you switch back, everything will be ok. Your shocks may wear a little faster though [with the larger tires], but since the rolling resistance is back to "normal", you'll be fine.Check out www.sounddomain.com. They've got some great Civis there!Ciao...

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