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Old 25 Mar 2012, 05:01 am
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Default my mechanic wants to put nitrogen in my 2006 Honda Element tires?

does nitrogen in tires make a car ride harder or the same,is there a difference?
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 05:20 am
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Nitrogen is simply an inert gas, meaning it doesn't combine with anything and it's also non-flammable. Regular Air you breathe is 78% Nitrogen. It won't change the ride at all.

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Old 25 Mar 2012, 05:34 am
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no its actually better. Nitrogen is a very dense gas (nonflammable type) and it doesn't heat up like air does. it will extend the life of your tire and it will have no effect on ride quality. almost all race cars run this in their tires and allot of tire shops now offer it. totally safe and harmless
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 05:49 am
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Your tires are exactly the same. The only difference is what is inside them.

The common myth is that nitrogen doesn't expand when it gets warm like regular air does. That, of course, is nonsense as anyone with high school chemistry can tell you. The reality is that regular air also contains contaminants that cause the tire to deteriorate. It is also composed of smaller molecules that can actually leak out through the pores in the rubber. Nitrogen, being a larger and more consistent molecule doesn't leak out so once your tire is correctly inflated it will likely stay that way.

Other than that, there aren't any real advantages. it's also more expensive.
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 06:08 am
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sounds like an easy way for them to make money, find out how much it costs.
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 06:17 am
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Ride quality is exactly the same as with air.

There are a couple of reasons why nitrogen is better than air.

First. Nitrogen is more stable than air. What this means is that it does not expand or contract with temperature changes like air. This means more consistent tire pressure. For example. With a tire filled with air the pressure can increase as much as 5 PSI from when it is cold when you first start driving until it is heated up after about 30 minutes of driving. For example, with nitrogen, when you start out the pressure will be 32 PSI and will still be 32 PSI after driving for an hour.

The other advantage is that nitrogen is more dense than air. Air will eventually leak from a tire. This is one of the reasons why you need to check your tire pressure from time to time. Nitrogen leaks from a tire at a slower rate.

Is it worth the money? That's a judgment call that only you can make.
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 06:36 am
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total waste of time air is 80% nitrogen anyway , mad jack should change his name to ignorant jack, all gases expand with heat and nitrogen is LESS dense than oxygen or air so will leak MORE easily, as with most tire shops these days it is a scam just like rotating tires(which wrecks radials and directional tires) and resurfacing rotors which wrecks ABS systems
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 07:02 am
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The same - in all ways except oxidation and moisture content it is virtually identical to air. It has the same coefficient of expansion - all the gases in air are far enough from their condensation point to behave as ideal gases under Boyle's law, 97% as dense as air (nitrogen is 14 grams per mole [22.4 liters at standard temperature and pressure] while air is 14.4 grams per mole). Nitrogen molecules are almost exactly the same size as oxygen molecules. Both have the same ratio of specific heat (1.4) which is a good measure of compressive elasticity. If you filled a basketball with nitrogen and another with air you would need sensitive equipment to tell which was which.

The only reason for putting nitrogen in car tires is if the rims are prone to corrosion. Otherwise it is pointless.
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Old 25 Mar 2012, 07:17 am
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too much info here, here's the fact, Honda Services technician knows what's better for your car so i would say let them put nitrogen in your tires and test it out. for me, they use it on my honda crv 02 when i do a complete services, its is more smoother and more stable and doesn't leak air and tried this drive for 30minute and touch your air, you will feel the warmness it has but with Nitrogen the tires will still be the same temperature like before you start driving. thats the different. i know they said air is 80% nitrogen but the Nitrogen they are using for your tires is complete 100% safe nitrogen. so its saves you more money. think about it, do you want to fill up air every time your tires gets flat or just dont have to deal with it. thats Nitrogen, if it wasn't safer or cool then your honda services technician or mechanic wouldn't have wanted to do it, because HONDA CARE ABOUT SERVICES AND QUALITY. GO FOR IT.
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