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Old 12 Mar 2011, 09:27 pm
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3 weeks ago, I had my water pump and timing belt changed on my 94 civic, it had just hit 100,000 miles and I was told I needed to. In the last week, my car started running hot when I ran the ac or idled for a period of time. I took it to the shop, they checked the radiator- no leaks, no blockage. Checked the fans- both working properly. They said it most likely was my thermostat, so they changed it. I don't know if they ended up testing the old one or not. That was just today. Now my car is overheating within a few minutes of starting it. Without running any accessories getting all the way to the 'H'. Do you think it was a faulty water pump that could have caused this in the first place? Or maybe a bad thermostat was put in? I'm at a loss, I have paid this shop $800+ this month and both times I pick up my car it seems to be worse off.
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Old 12 Mar 2011, 11:55 pm
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Default Re: water pump or thermostat?? help

I would go back to the mechanic and tell them that they didnt fix the problem , so they need to do it for free, but it sounds like you just got a bad thermostat, the best way to tell would be to take it in and have them test the temp of the engine when your car says it is hot, if it actually hot then it is probably your water pump, if not then it is your thermostat.
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Old 24 Mar 2011, 08:36 pm
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Ok I'm back. So I did what you said and took my car back, told them that they didnt fix the problem. They looked at it, drove it around trying to recreate the over heating, flushed my radiator again and said that it's my raditor. That my radiator is bad and has stop leak in it or something and needs to be replaced eventually. They didnt charge me anything and sent me on my way. My car continued to run a little warm occasionally, but always going back to normal. 10 days later (yesterday) I was driving to work when suddenly my car is shaking and white smoke is everywhere. I pulled over, called the shop, explained what happened. And had it towed back there reluctantly. I figured at the very least, they would get it running again because I had it ther 10 days ago and they said nothing was immediately wrong, and 12 days ago they replaced my thermostat, not to mention 3 weeks prior having my water pump and timing belt changed.

Unfortunately, thats not the case, they tore down the engine, told me i damaged a cylinder internally, but my head gaskets were sealed so thats why they couldnt diagnose the problem earlier. They then said I would need to pay $250 for labor for the tear down, and they were going to send something out to see if it can be machined and salvaged, but even in that case im looking at $1000- $1500 to get it running again.

Now, after speaking with a Honda mechanic, he explained that he believes my timing belt was installed improperly, throwing everything off balance causing it to over heat. That had they checked the timing belt when i brought it in the 2nd time they would have seen it and the shops bad work caused all my problems.

Well my dad just called the shop and they are saying its a blown head gasket from me driving with it hot (which i was very careful not to do) when specifically they told me it wasnt a head gasket, that it was cylinder.

I just want to know what my recourse is. Do you think a bad timing belt job could be the culprit? If so how do I get the shop to help me? Its a big national chain so I think I'll start by calling corporate and seeing where it gets me. But bottom line, I had a fantastic car with 100,000 miles, did some preventative maitenance, ending up spending $1000+ in a month on it, and now it doesnt run.
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 07:38 pm
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It may very well be the timing belt was installed properly. I would definitely call corporate and make a complaint and see where it gets you, it sounds like they caused the issue, not fixed anything. If it was the timing belt, and you said they replaced it, then it was their fault to begin with. If you can, you might wanna take it to a different mechanic and ask their opinion, and then take it back to the main shop and tell them to fix it, or just take it to them, tell them they messed it to and they need to do whatever it takes to get it back to good condition. If you call the main offices and make enough complaints they should be willing to do everything needed to fix it.
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