Honda Car Forum

William Munny wrote:
> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ta0695h6bd2jp7q32g6lblvl072b6ur8ln@4ax.com...
>
>>Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>>
>>
>>>"Bob Daun" <bldaun@tds.net> wrote in
>>>news:Spfkm.2487$cW.913@newsreading01.news.tds.n et:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My 2006 accord V-6 Automatic makes very little noise when the turn
>>>>signals are operating. Consequently, some times I don't turn them off
>>>>when I should. My hand may be blocking the green arrow on the dash.
>>>>Is there any way to increase the sound intensity so I will be more
>>>>aware of when a signal is operating?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Damn, you took the words right out of my mouth.
>>>
>>>I had to replace my (1991-vintage) turn signal relay recently. The new
>>>replacement is a LOT quieter than the old one, and I too am now tending to
>>>forget the signal is on.
>>>
>>>The relay consists of a set of points controlled by a coil. Power the coil
>>>and the points snap together. It's the impact of the points on each other
>>>that makes the click noise. The dealership has only one "correct" relay
>>>and
>>>no "loudness" options, so I guess if one were to seek out noisier
>>>substitutes, somebody would have to have access to some kind of
>>>aftermarket
>>>list of compatible relays that are louder.
>>>
>>>Anybody?
>>
>>Not to be smashing on anyone (especially you) but I just drive aware.
>>I do the three mirror scan, I hit the two gauges, I do the head flick
>>when I lane change. Doc says I have great peripheral vision (ie, I
>>can "see" something) so I pretty much know what's "there". And I
>>alwasy remember where I left my controls.
>>
>>But that's me.
>>
>>Hey, at least you use them. As opposed to 70% of the country.
>>Including, sigh, my wife.
>>--
>>
>>- dillon I am not invalid
>>
>>"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
>>I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."
>>
>>- former B52 wing commander
>
>
> Thanks for your service and keeping my ass safe....but what does good
> peripheral vision have to do with forgetting to kill your turn signal
> because you can't hear it clicking?
>
>


Not to mention that as you age, hearing ability tends to diminish.

JT

Who hates "silent" turn signals...

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <ta0695h6bd2jp7q32g6lblvl072b6ur8ln@4ax.com>,
> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Not to be smashing on anyone (especially you) but I just drive aware.
>>I do the three mirror scan, I hit the two gauges, I do the head flick
>>when I lane change.
>
>
> If you "do the head flick" when you change lanes, that's no doubt
> because your mirrors are set incorrectly.
>
> With correctly set mirrors, there is no blind spot and you can see cars
> as they move out of your rear view mirror and into your side view
> mirror, and from your side view mirror into your main vision at your
> side.
>
> The most "flicking" you should ever have to do is over to the side
> mirror.



Er, you've obviously never driven in Texas where they have mastered the
skill of finding every blind spot imaginable.

Personally, I have never had any vehicle with total foolproof mirrors to
cover blindspots. Any mirror that does so seriously distorts the
picture as to range and position..

JT

In article <h7a2i7$2dr$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@GrumpyOneNot.net> wrote:

> > With correctly set mirrors, there is no blind spot and you can see cars
> > as they move out of your rear view mirror and into your side view
> > mirror, and from your side view mirror into your main vision at your
> > side.
> >
> > The most "flicking" you should ever have to do is over to the side
> > mirror.
>
>
>
> Er, you've obviously never driven in Texas where they have mastered the
> skill of finding every blind spot imaginable.

If your mirrors are properly adjusted, there *is* no blind spot.


> Personally, I have never had any vehicle with total foolproof mirrors to
> cover blindspots. Any mirror that does so seriously distorts the
> picture as to range and position..

I'm not talking about a distorting mirror. I'm talking about adjusting
them correctly such that you see the car either in your rear view
mirror, or if it's going out of that it's going into and passing through
your side view mirror, and as the rear of the car is exiting your side
mirror the front of the car is coming up beside you.

You need never turn your head any farther than what it takes to look in
the side mirror.

Trust me. No distortion, plain mirrors, no blind spot.

I didn't invent this. I found it years ago, and discovered that it
works.

On 8/28/09 9:11 PM, in article h7a2i7$2dr$2@news.eternal-september.org,
"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@GrumpyOneNot.net> wrote:

> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> In article <ta0695h6bd2jp7q32g6lblvl072b6ur8ln@4ax.com>,
>> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Not to be smashing on anyone (especially you) but I just drive aware.
>>> I do the three mirror scan, I hit the two gauges, I do the head flick
>>> when I lane change.
>>
>>
>> If you "do the head flick" when you change lanes, that's no doubt
>> because your mirrors are set incorrectly.
>>
>> With correctly set mirrors, there is no blind spot and you can see cars
>> as they move out of your rear view mirror and into your side view
>> mirror, and from your side view mirror into your main vision at your
>> side.
>>
>> The most "flicking" you should ever have to do is over to the side
>> mirror.
>
>
>
> Er, you've obviously never driven in Texas where they have mastered the
> skill of finding every blind spot imaginable.
>
> Personally, I have never had any vehicle with total foolproof mirrors to
> cover blindspots. Any mirror that does so seriously distorts the
> picture as to range and position..
>
> JT
>

I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the fenders
towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting them was a real
PITA.

had a Buick rental car once and forgot to turn the signal off. after a
while, a louder dinging started. good idea I thought since I was on an LA
freeway.

"C. E. White" <cewhite3@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:4a944d8e$1@kcnews01...

"Bob Daun" <bldaun@tds.net> wrote in message
news:Spfkm.2487$cW.913@newsreading01.news.tds.net. ..
> My 2006 accord V-6 Automatic makes very little noise when the turn
> signals are operating. Consequently, some times I don't turn them
> off when I should. My hand may be blocking the green arrow on the
> dash. Is there any way to increase the sound intensity so I will be
> more aware of when a signal is operating?
>
> Bob

Buick solved this problem a decade or more in the past. They included
a warning buzzer/light that went off if the turn signal stayed on to
long.

Ed

Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> :

>On 8/28/09 9:11 PM, in article h7a2i7$2dr$2@news.eternal-september.org,
>"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@GrumpyOneNot.net> wrote:
>
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>> In article <ta0695h6bd2jp7q32g6lblvl072b6ur8ln@4ax.com>,
>>> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not to be smashing on anyone (especially you) but I just drive aware.
>>>> I do the three mirror scan, I hit the two gauges, I do the head flick
>>>> when I lane change.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you "do the head flick" when you change lanes, that's no doubt
>>> because your mirrors are set incorrectly.
>>>
>>> With correctly set mirrors, there is no blind spot and you can see cars
>>> as they move out of your rear view mirror and into your side view
>>> mirror, and from your side view mirror into your main vision at your
>>> side.
>>>
>>> The most "flicking" you should ever have to do is over to the side
>>> mirror.
>>
>>
>>
>> Er, you've obviously never driven in Texas where they have mastered the
>> skill of finding every blind spot imaginable.
>>
>> Personally, I have never had any vehicle with total foolproof mirrors to
>> cover blindspots. Any mirror that does so seriously distorts the
>> picture as to range and position..
>>
>> JT
>>
>
>I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the fenders
>towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting them was a real
>PITA.

Ankle weights and second story balcony railings would have fixed that
problem.

I have some pictures from the early 70s of Datsuns and Hondas with
that kind of mirror.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in
news:e4oj959tghrvhgrue1s9p606neclkloivm@4ax.com:

> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> :
>

>>>
>>
>>I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the
>>fenders towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting
>>them was a real PITA.
>
> Ankle weights and second story balcony railings would have fixed that
> problem.
>
> I have some pictures from the early 70s of Datsuns and Hondas with
> that kind of mirror.



They were mandatory on Japan-market cars until somewhere around 1985.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :

>Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in
>news:e4oj959tghrvhgrue1s9p606neclkloivm@4ax.com :
>
>> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> :
>>
>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the
>>>fenders towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting
>>>them was a real PITA.
>>
>> Ankle weights and second story balcony railings would have fixed that
>> problem.
>>
>> I have some pictures from the early 70s of Datsuns and Hondas with
>> that kind of mirror.
>
>
>
>They were mandatory on Japan-market cars until somewhere around 1985.

That's what I thought, thanks.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

- former B52 wing commander

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:icqo9594p077b8dhhh9pb3aj9tl4sm8mi4@4ax.com...
> Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>
>>Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in
>>news:e4oj959tghrvhgrue1s9p606neclkloivm@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> Thus spake "E. Meyer" <epmeyer50@msn.com> :
>>>>
>>>>I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the
>>>>fenders towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting
>>>>them was a real PITA.
>>>
>>> Ankle weights and second story balcony railings would have fixed that
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> I have some pictures from the early 70s of Datsuns and Hondas with
>>> that kind of mirror.
>>
>>They were mandatory on Japan-market cars until somewhere around 1985.
>
> That's what I thought, thanks.


Still very popular over there on taxis. The most popular taxi (informal
survey, specifically my personal observation) is the Toyota Crown. Fender
forward mirrors and a driver activated door opener/closer.

E. Meyer wrote:
> On 8/28/09 9:11 PM, in article h7a2i7$2dr$2@news.eternal-september.org,
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@GrumpyOneNot.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <ta0695h6bd2jp7q32g6lblvl072b6ur8ln@4ax.com>,
>>> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not to be smashing on anyone (especially you) but I just drive aware.
>>>>I do the three mirror scan, I hit the two gauges, I do the head flick
>>>>when I lane change.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you "do the head flick" when you change lanes, that's no doubt
>>>because your mirrors are set incorrectly.
>>>
>>>With correctly set mirrors, there is no blind spot and you can see cars
>>>as they move out of your rear view mirror and into your side view
>>>mirror, and from your side view mirror into your main vision at your
>>>side.
>>>
>>>The most "flicking" you should ever have to do is over to the side
>>>mirror.
>>
>>
>>
>>Er, you've obviously never driven in Texas where they have mastered the
>>skill of finding every blind spot imaginable.
>>
>>Personally, I have never had any vehicle with total foolproof mirrors to
>>cover blindspots. Any mirror that does so seriously distorts the
>>picture as to range and position..
>>
>>JT
>>
>
>
> I remember the '55 Olds had the side mirrors way forward on the fenders
> towards the front of the car. No blind spots, but adjusting them was a real
> PITA.
>


Yes, that was typical of quite a few cars of that era. My '55
Studebaker President has that set up on both fenders.

But today's mirrors on the door corners don't cover the entire range
UNLESS they are wider than normal angle of view hence perceived distance
can be a hazard.

Simply cannot ignore the laws of physics...

JT