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Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :

>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>24A819.11363403052009@mara100-84.onlink.net:
>
>> In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>> jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.
>>
>> well, he DID say it was recreational.
>>
>> I think fishing is crazy,
>>
>
>
>
>So is skydiving.

Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.

When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.
--

- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.

Dillon Pyron wrote:
> Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>
>
>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>24A819.11363403052009@mara100-84.onlink.net:
>>
>>
>>>In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>> jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.
>>>
>>>well, he DID say it was recreational.
>>>
>>>I think fishing is crazy,
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>So is skydiving.
>
>
> Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.
>
> When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.


Yeah, but a well trained SCUBA diver has options...

JT

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
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>
> L Alpert wrote:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:bhtLl.193104$4m1.95595@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in
>>>>news:syhLl.17728$D32.10787
>>>>@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Xns9C005663F6B06tegger@208.90.168.18.. .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>People who let their oil go that long are not the sort to pay
>>>>>>much
>>>>>>attention to how well the engine is running. Or else they
>>>>>>studiously ignore
>>>>>>any evident problems, perhaps in the hopes that they will go
>>>>>>away on their
>>>>>>own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>When I was a kid, I had an old Rambler that leaked/burned so much
>>>>>oil, it was in a state of perpetual change.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My old '76 Coronet burned a quart between gas fillups. I don't
>>>>think I ever "changed the oil" in the traditional way the whole
>>>>time I had the car.
>>>
>>>
>>>Worse car for oil consumption for me was a $50 Torino that achieved
>>>a whoppin' 50 miles per quart. Then came a '76 Civic that average
>>>between 1-2K per quart. Of course, that car cost me $500!
>>>
>>
>>
>> The old Rambler I had I got for $75. It was a combination of puke
>> green and primer.
>>
>
>
> I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually
> wasn't a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it
> went down the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..
>
> JT
>

A regular Wayne's World, eh....at least the Gremlin was ugly enough to
be cooler than the AMC Hornet.

My brother has a cache of older cars. Last I recall, he has a '60
Rambler (flat head 6) American, 65 Marlin, 73 Ambassador (327 ragtop)
an American Eagle 4 wheel drive wagon of early 70's vintage and 2
Subaru 360cc 2 cycle mini's from I believe a late 60's or early 70's
vintage. All of them are well kept......

"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in news:OC8Ml.21786$as4.7845
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

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> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
> news:q_OLl.26280$941.25922@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>

>>>
>>
>>
>> I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually
>> wasn't a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it
>> went down the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..
>>
>> JT
>>
>
> A regular Wayne's World, eh....



Wayne's World had the Pacer, not the Gremlin, no?



> at least the Gremlin was ugly enough to
> be cooler than the AMC Hornet.



The Hornet might have been your dad's car, but the back seat was actually
usable, and it was better looking than the Gremlin. IMHO, of course.



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"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in news:OC8Ml.21786$as4.7845
> @nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>> news:q_OLl.26280$941.25922@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually
>>> wasn't a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it
>>> went down the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..
>>>
>>> JT
>>>
>>
>> A regular Wayne's World, eh....
>
>
>
> Wayne's World had the Pacer, not the Gremlin, no?
>

You may be right on that.

>
>
>> at least the Gremlin was ugly enough to
>> be cooler than the AMC Hornet.
>
>
>
> The Hornet might have been your dad's car, but the back seat was
> actually
> usable, and it was better looking than the Gremlin. IMHO, of course.

My favorite was the old Ramblers. The front seats folded down to the
back to make one big, flat cushion.

>
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

On Fri, 01 May 2009 10:44:12 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> like this Saturn rental:
>
> http://jalopnik.com/5235675/saturn-r...l-change-engin
> e-carnage-ensues-after-30000-miles\

Get back to the Toyota group where you belong!

Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> :

>
>
>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>> Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>>
>>
>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>>24A819.11363403052009@mara100-84.onlink.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>>> jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.
>>>>
>>>>well, he DID say it was recreational.
>>>>
>>>>I think fishing is crazy,
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So is skydiving.
>>
>>
>> Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.
>>
>> When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.
>
>
>Yeah, but a well trained SCUBA diver has options...
>
>JT

True. But if you run out of air at 100 ft, you're not very well
trained. I (all caps) can make a CSA from 100 ft, but I also have a
12 ft pony with 32%.

Can we agree that BASE jumpers are, in fact, a little beyond insane?
Any group that has "the ground's the limit" is not even not all there.

--

- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.

Thus spake "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> :

>
>"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
>news:Xns9C0344CB185B5tegger@208.90.168.18...
>> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote in news:OC8Ml.21786$as4.7845
>> @nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message
>>> news:q_OLl.26280$941.25922@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I replaced the turdbox Torino with a $300 Gremlin which actually
>>>> wasn't a bad car. Had the 258 six cylinder with two barrel and it
>>>> went down the road nicely. Rest was the main issue with that car..
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>
>>> A regular Wayne's World, eh....
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne's World had the Pacer, not the Gremlin, no?
>>
>
>You may be right on that.

The Pacer was the bubble top. Whoever designed it had never been in
the sun for more than 2 hours at a time.

The Gremlin had the precursor to the many boxes we now see. Nice
sloped back. Gary Gablelich had a nice funny built from one. Four
wheel drive, IIRC.

>
>>
>>
>>> at least the Gremlin was ugly enough to
>>> be cooler than the AMC Hornet.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Hornet might have been your dad's car, but the back seat was
>> actually
>> usable, and it was better looking than the Gremlin. IMHO, of course.
>
>My favorite was the old Ramblers. The front seats folded down to the
>back to make one big, flat cushion.

Neighbor has not one, but two Avantis. One is actually an "almost"
everyday driver (no rain, no fog, no ice, no "the other sucker is not
in control and doesn't have enough insurance" type days).

THAT was a car before its time.

>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
--

- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.

Dillon Pyron wrote:

> Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> :
>
>
>>
>>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>
>>>Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>>>24A819.11363403052009@mara100-84.onlink.net:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>>>>jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>well, he DID say it was recreational.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think fishing is crazy,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So is skydiving.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.
>>>
>>>When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.
>>
>>
>>Yeah, but a well trained SCUBA diver has options...
>>
>>JT
>
>
> True. But if you run out of air at 100 ft, you're not very well
> trained. I (all caps) can make a CSA from 100 ft, but I also have a
> 12 ft pony with 32%.

If one observes the "buddy" rule, there is option #1 that has no substitute.

If one is at 100 feet, he has twenty-five minutes of allowable "bottom
time." During my heyday when 72 cubic foot steel tanks were the
standard, air supply was for well more than that time. In fact, using
duals was a good option but they're a bitch to cart around. Then there
was the alluminum 90 cubic footers for "professional" use. Oh, for those
that don't understand the basic SCUBA rules, "bottom" time includes the
time used for descent..

OTOH, my favorite activity was ship diving where most of the decks were
at the 100 ft level and it was real easy to explore a hold which brought
the allowble bottom time to much shorter lengths. Stay at 120 ft for the
same 25 minutes, be prepared to hang at 20 and 10 ft for a spell for
decompression.


> Can we agree that BASE jumpers are, in fact, a little beyond insane?
> Any group that has "the ground's the limit" is not even not all there.

Anyone who jumps out of perfectly good airplanes, off of cliffs, bridges
etc is nutz. Once you jump you are at the mercy of luck, physics et al.

Of course, here in Austin, not too many are sound thinkers...

JT

Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> :

>
>
>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>
>> Thus spake Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> :
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Dillon Pyron wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thus spake Tegger <invalid@invalid.inv> :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
>>>>>24A819.11363403052009@mara100-84.onlink.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <wv2dne7lMa_TAGDUnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
>>>>>>jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>conclusion: 3k on synthetic is crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>well, he DID say it was recreational.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think fishing is crazy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So is skydiving.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sky diving and scuba diving have something very important in common.
>>>>
>>>>When you suddenly run out of air, the fun stops.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, but a well trained SCUBA diver has options...
>>>
>>>JT
>>
>>
>> True. But if you run out of air at 100 ft, you're not very well
>> trained. I (all caps) can make a CSA from 100 ft, but I also have a
>> 12 ft pony with 32%.
>
>If one observes the "buddy" rule, there is option #1 that has no substitute.
>
>If one is at 100 feet, he has twenty-five minutes of allowable "bottom
>time." During my heyday when 72 cubic foot steel tanks were the
>standard, air supply was for well more than that time. In fact, using
>duals was a good option but they're a bitch to cart around. Then there
>was the alluminum 90 cubic footers for "professional" use. Oh, for those
>that don't understand the basic SCUBA rules, "bottom" time includes the
>time used for descent..
>
>OTOH, my favorite activity was ship diving where most of the decks were
>at the 100 ft level and it was real easy to explore a hold which brought
>the allowble bottom time to much shorter lengths. Stay at 120 ft for the
>same 25 minutes, be prepared to hang at 20 and 10 ft for a spell for
>decompression.
>
>
>> Can we agree that BASE jumpers are, in fact, a little beyond insane?
>> Any group that has "the ground's the limit" is not even not all there.
>
>Anyone who jumps out of perfectly good airplanes, off of cliffs, bridges
>etc is nutz. Once you jump you are at the mercy of luck, physics et al.
>
>Of course, here in Austin, not too many are sound thinkers...

Who do you dive with. With school now pretty much out until June, I'm
going to try to get with Pisces dive club Wednesday nights and try to
hit somewhere on Sundays. But the 20 mile walk to the water is a
bitch.

>
>JT
--

- dillon I am not invalid

The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.