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Old 13 Dec 2008, 02:34 pm
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Officially -- I understand that official positions are mere
>> technicalities to you -- Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA. Just
>> because there are a few nutcases there that do not like America does not
>> make the country our enemy.
>>
>> Officially, Iraq had declared itself as an enemy of America, yet there
>> were millions of Iraqis that actually like America.

>
>
> A few nut cases??? I must admit that you are very good at just one thing:
> Proving that you do not read much. Saudi Arabia is run by nut cases. The
> royal family is the government.


That makes the government a monarchy, and the family is a monarch not a
nutcase. They are not a democracy (not a democratic as opposed to democrat
society -- see how that works in a sentence?), but that alone does not
define them as being a nutcase. Perhaps you used "nutcase" improperly.



You can't wrap your head around this because
> in this country, one family doesn't dominate the government.


You are the one here with a problem getting his arms around reality.

Show us a cite where the United States Department of State defines Saudi
Arabia is an enemy. I'll wait ...









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Old 13 Dec 2008, 02:54 pm
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Hairy wrote:
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:a85797f5-dbad-4228-80bb-bd26ddb65921@r36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Hairy wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e5a7a$4942830f$927a2cda$5977@FUSE.NET...
>>>> There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing gas
>>>> guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.

>> Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?

>
> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something sexual?
> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>


To each their own. Most people dont NEED a vehicle that big- they buy it
to stroke their ego. those are the same people that live in shitty
section 8 apartments (or at home with mom) and can only afford to buy
their gas a couple gallons at a time. let em have their toys.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 02:55 pm
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larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians?


all but one.



How many were
> not?

one.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 02:58 pm
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80 Knight wrote:
> Why not? Because it was longer ago then 9/11? The Japanese Government
> can't be trusted, they have proved that time and again. You keep sending
> your $$$ to Japan, while sending our own industries into the toilet. If
> WWIII breaks out, Japan will supply us with the weapons, and equipment we
> need, right? <--sarcasm


our biggest deficit has been with china for a long time now. yes- we
cohort with commies when they can supply us with cheap crap. but thats
ok, as long as you can get a stainless steel grill with a harley logo on
it at walmart for $199.98
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 03:09 pm
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"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hairy wrote:
>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:2WF0l.26374$v37.6961@newsfe01.iad...

>
>> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>>
>>> We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little money
>>> as possible to the country whichsend lessAmericans in Manhattan a few
>>> years back.

>>
>> And what country would that be?
>>
>> > Were you too young to understand the news just after 9/11? Saudi
>> > Arabia,
>> > of course. One of our worst enemies.

>>
>> BTW, I'd like to see your evidence that proves that Saudi Arabia "
>> arranged
>> for the death of 3000 Americans". I know that there was talk that there
>> *may
>> have been* "factions" within SA that supported the attack, but as far as
>> I
>> know, no credible entity ever accused SA of being behind it.

>
> How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians? How many were
> not?
>
> With what prominent Saudi family was GW Bush socializing when the 9/11
> attacks occurred, and what was their relationship to al Qaeda?
>
> Who were the primary financiers of the religious schools in
> Afghanistan and Pakistan and the al Qaeda training bases in
> Afghanistan?
>
> What country's leadership went nuts when Death of a Princess aired
> almost three decades ago? Think of what they would have done, oil-
> wise, if we had accurately accused them of cohorting with the 9/11
> hijackers.
>
> It's very naive to not place the majority of blame with Saudi Arabia,
> a nation whose royal family is full of Jew-hating, Christian-hating
> religious fanactics, the most corrupt rulers in the world with an
> average of only a fifth grade education. Keep helping al Qaeda and
> Saudi Arabia by wasting energy.



This Saudi Arabia? Say it ain't so.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...hp&oref=slogin



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Old 13 Dec 2008, 03:10 pm
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:WMT0l.4908$%z5.2923@newsfe09.iad...
>>>
>>> Officially -- I understand that official positions are mere
>>> technicalities to you -- Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA. Just
>>> because there are a few nutcases there that do not like America does not
>>> make the country our enemy.
>>>
>>> Officially, Iraq had declared itself as an enemy of America, yet there
>>> were millions of Iraqis that actually like America.

>>
>>
>> A few nut cases??? I must admit that you are very good at just one
>> thing: Proving that you do not read much. Saudi Arabia is run by nut
>> cases. The royal family is the government.

>
> That makes the government a monarchy, and the family is a monarch not a
> nutcase. They are not a democracy (not a democratic as opposed to democrat
> society -- see how that works in a sentence?), but that alone does not
> define them as being a nutcase. Perhaps you used "nutcase" improperly.
>
>
>
> You can't wrap your head around this because
>> in this country, one family doesn't dominate the government.

>
> You are the one here with a problem getting his arms around reality.
>
> Show us a cite where the United States Department of State defines Saudi
> Arabia is an enemy. I'll wait ...



What State says is not always in line with reality. You will respond as
predicted when presented with the following.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...hp&oref=slogin


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 03:41 pm
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:gi12nk$scq$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:WMT0l.4908$%z5.2923@newsfe09.iad...
>>>>
>>>> Officially -- I understand that official positions are mere
>>>> technicalities to you -- Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA. Just
>>>> because there are a few nutcases there that do not like America does
>>>> not make the country our enemy.
>>>>
>>>> Officially, Iraq had declared itself as an enemy of America, yet there
>>>> were millions of Iraqis that actually like America.
>>>
>>>
>>> A few nut cases??? I must admit that you are very good at just one
>>> thing: Proving that you do not read much. Saudi Arabia is run by nut
>>> cases. The royal family is the government.

>>
>> That makes the government a monarchy, and the family is a monarch not a
>> nutcase. They are not a democracy (not a democratic as opposed to
>> democrat society -- see how that works in a sentence?), but that alone
>> does not define them as being a nutcase. Perhaps you used "nutcase"
>> improperly.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can't wrap your head around this because
>>> in this country, one family doesn't dominate the government.

>>
>> You are the one here with a problem getting his arms around reality.
>>
>> Show us a cite where the United States Department of State defines Saudi
>> Arabia is an enemy. I'll wait ...

>
>
> What State says is not always in line with reality. You will respond as
> predicted when presented with the following.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...hp&oref=slogin
>


Thank you, Captain BesideThePoint.

Mexicans account for more than 60% of the illegal immigrants flooding into
the United States each year, but Mexico is not an invading nation. Mexico is
an ally, despite the flood of Mexicans.

There are a few nutcases in Saudi Arabia that flood across the border into
Iraq, but Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA, it is an ally. The
OFFICAL position of the USA is that the Saudi royal family, and by extension
the government and the country is an ally.

So, I'm still waiting for an official citation that Saudi Arabia is not an
ally.


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 03:44 pm
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:sEU0l.4916$%z5.733@newsfe09.iad...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:gi12nk$scq$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:WMT0l.4908$%z5.2923@newsfe09.iad...
>>>>>
>>>>> Officially -- I understand that official positions are mere
>>>>> technicalities to you -- Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA. Just
>>>>> because there are a few nutcases there that do not like America does
>>>>> not make the country our enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Officially, Iraq had declared itself as an enemy of America, yet there
>>>>> were millions of Iraqis that actually like America.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A few nut cases??? I must admit that you are very good at just one
>>>> thing: Proving that you do not read much. Saudi Arabia is run by nut
>>>> cases. The royal family is the government.
>>>
>>> That makes the government a monarchy, and the family is a monarch not a
>>> nutcase. They are not a democracy (not a democratic as opposed to
>>> democrat society -- see how that works in a sentence?), but that alone
>>> does not define them as being a nutcase. Perhaps you used "nutcase"
>>> improperly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can't wrap your head around this because
>>>> in this country, one family doesn't dominate the government.
>>>
>>> You are the one here with a problem getting his arms around reality.
>>>
>>> Show us a cite where the United States Department of State defines Saudi
>>> Arabia is an enemy. I'll wait ...

>>
>>
>> What State says is not always in line with reality. You will respond as
>> predicted when presented with the following.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/wo...hp&oref=slogin
>>

>
> Thank you, Captain BesideThePoint.


Traitor. You think it's beside the point. The Saudis do NOTHING to stop the
flow of lunatics who want to kill our soldiers, who you obviously care
nothing about. You are detritus.


> There are a few nutcases in Saudi Arabia that flood across the border into
> Iraq, but Saudi Arabia is not an enemy of the USA, it is an ally. The
> OFFICAL position of the USA is that the Saudi royal family, and by
> extension the government and the country is an ally.
>
> So, I'm still waiting for an official citation that Saudi Arabia is not an
> ally.



Only a simpleton needs a "citation" to prove what our military has proven by
observation. You are a simpleton.


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 03:57 pm
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Thank you, Captain BesideThePoint.

>
> Traitor. You think it's beside the point. The Saudis do NOTHING to stop
> the flow of lunatics who want to kill our soldiers, who you obviously care
> nothing about. You are detritus.
>
>


Using that logic, Arizona is a terrorist state because it failed to stop Tim
McVeigh.

You seem to be unaware of this, but OBL was expelled from Saudi Arabia.

Still waiting ...





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Old 13 Dec 2008, 04:22 pm
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"Hairy" <hairy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Hairy wrote:
>>
>>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e5a7a$4942830f$927a2cda$5977@FUSE.NET...

>>
>>> > There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing gas
>>> > guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.

>>
>> Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?

>
> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something sexual?
> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
> No wonder you don't like suv's.


SUVs are needed by most people... how? They aren't. They are *wanted* by
some people (whose numbers appear to be shrinking) - for whatever reason(s).
SUVs offer a lot of space along with low gas milage, for a relatively high
purchase price. If you (plural you) don't need all of that space, want to
get good-to-excellent mpg, and don't want to spend more than is reasonable
for a vehicle that fits your needs, you don't want an SUV since it'd be a
waste of money.

Cathy


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