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Old 12 Dec 2008, 11:51 pm
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hairy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing
>>>>>>> > gas
>>>>>>> > guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something
>>>>> sexual?
>>>>> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
>>>>> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little
>>>> money as possible to the country which arranged for the death of 3000
>>>> Americans in Manhattan a few years back.
>>>
>>> And what country would that be?

>>
>> Were you too young to understand the news just after 9/11? Saudi Arabia,
>> of course. One of our worst enemies.

>
> Canada supplies more oil to the US then any other country.
>




Irrelevant to this discussion, you silly child.




>>> You may have heard about it. This country is not
>>>> yet to the point where we can send nothing to the perpetrators,
>>>
>>> That would be an understatement.
>>> If all the suv's suddenly were capable matching the mileage of the
>>> average sedan, the difference in the amount of imported oil would be
>>> negligible, if noticeable at all. (my opinion)
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> Two parents and a kid can get around just fine in a mid-size sedan
>>>> instead of an Escalade, unless they are traitors and think it's OK that
>>>> we continue to finance the murderers of 3000 Americans in Manhattan.
>>>
>>> I'm sure you'd prefer to continue to finance the murderers of more than
>>> 2400 Americans at Pearl Harbor.

>>
>> Yeah. That's the same thing. <--sarcasm

>
> Why not? Because it was longer ago then 9/11? The Japanese Government
> can't be trusted, they have proved that time and again. You keep sending
> your $$$ to Japan, while sending our own industries into the toilet. If
> WWIII breaks out, Japan will supply us with the weapons, and equipment we
> need, right? <--sarcasm



Stay focused. We are talking about Saudi Arabia.


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 12:14 am
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hairy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:e5a7a$4942830f$927a2cda$5977@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing
>>>>>>>> > gas
>>>>>>>> > guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something
>>>>>> sexual?
>>>>>> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
>>>>>> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little
>>>>> money as possible to the country which arranged for the death of 3000
>>>>> Americans in Manhattan a few years back.
>>>>
>>>> And what country would that be?
>>>
>>> Were you too young to understand the news just after 9/11? Saudi Arabia,
>>> of course. One of our worst enemies.

>>
>> Canada supplies more oil to the US then any other country.
>>

>
>
>
> Irrelevant to this discussion, you silly child.


You are irrelevant to this discussion.


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 12:20 am
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hairy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:e5a7a$4942830f$927a2cda$5977@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with
>>>>>>>>> > seeing gas
>>>>>>>>> > guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something
>>>>>>> sexual?
>>>>>>> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
>>>>>>> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little
>>>>>> money as possible to the country which arranged for the death of 3000
>>>>>> Americans in Manhattan a few years back.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what country would that be?
>>>>
>>>> Were you too young to understand the news just after 9/11? Saudi
>>>> Arabia, of course. One of our worst enemies.
>>>
>>> Canada supplies more oil to the US then any other country.
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> Irrelevant to this discussion, you silly child.

>
> You are irrelevant to this discussion.
>



Several of your non-reading clones have said the same thing in the past. Why
don't you read? How did your parents **** you up so badly that you disdain
reading?


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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:01 am
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80 Knight wrote:

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> >>> "Hairy" <hairy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>
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>> There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing gas
>> guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
>>
> >>>> Yeah, it's called jealousy.

>>
>> Only someone with a small penis would say it's jealousy.
>>
> >> Grow the hell up. Some people actually take pride in what they drive.
> >> They are proud of the way it looks. Obviously this does not apply to
> >> Toyota owners, as they make the most boring vehicles in the world. I
> >> almost fall asleep everytime I see one. Someday, if you are really good,
> >> you might own a vehicle that you are proud to show to your family and
> >> friends.

> >
> > Valid response, but it does nothing to address the jealousy issue.

>
> I was not the one who made the jealousy comment, however, it does happen.
> Some people think of a car as nothing more then a tool to get from home to
> work. Others enjoy, and take pride in maintaing, upgrading, modifying, and
> whatever else you can think of, there cars.
>
> > If I hit the lottery tomorrow, I still wouldn't be driving around in a
> > gigantic vehicle unless it somehow addressed a mechanical need (towing,
> > off-road, lots of passengers).

>
> That is fair. You say it doesn't address your mechanical need. What about
> your desires? If you don't mind driving around all your life in a Camry, or
> Civic, that is fine with me. I, on the other hand, prefer a nicer
> automobile.


Nicer = gets through traffic jams much faster than any car made a half-
century ago.

> > Pride? In what? You had no hand in building the car you drive unless you
> > work for the manufacturer. Pride in the wax job?

>
> Actually, most of my extended family does work for GM, so there is
> definitely pride there. As for the wax job, sure. Why do you think there
> are so many waxes, cleaning products, detailing products, modification
> products, etc. on the market?


For the same reason there are so many waxes, cleaning products,
detailing products, modification products on the cosmetics and health
market -- vanity, plus foolishness that they'll actually help.

Why do you think there are so many oil and gas treatments for cars,
most of which are useless?

> Those are for people who take pride in their vehicles, and there's nothing wrong with that.


Still, they shouldn't hang rubber testicles from the rear bumpers.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:08 am
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Hairy wrote:

> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>> "Jeff Findley" <jeff.findley@ugs.nojunk.com> wrote in message
>> news:e5a7a$4942830f$927a2cda$5977@FUSE.NET...

>
> >> > There is a reason that many people are getting fed up with seeing gas
> >> > guzzling full size SUV's on the road.
> >>
> >> Yeah, it's called jealousy.

> >
> > Why would anybody be jealous of impotence?

>
> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something sexual?


Don't be like a wimp. SUVs are fine for people who can benefit from
them, but it's silly for a sole person to drive one in a clear weather
metro area and take up too much space in the parking lot.

> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.


Not according to your wife.





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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:10 am
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Gosi wrote:

> It is interesting that Ford is not willing to receive money under the
> terms the government is offering.


Because Ford literally mortgaged itself before real estate market
values and the securities markets crashed, so it has $38B to work with.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:19 am
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Hairy wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:xfF0l.26370$v37.12252@newsfe01.iad...
>
> Why do you anti-suv guys turn every suv discussion into something sexual?
> I get it! You see suv's as reminders of your sexual inadequacy.
> No wonder you don't like suv's.
> >
> > We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little money
> > as possible to the country which arranged for the death of 3000 Americans
> > in Manhattan a few years back.

>
> And what country would that be?
>
> > You may have heard about it. This country is not
> > yet to the point where we can send nothing to the perpetrators,

>
> That would be an understatement.
> If all the suv's suddenly were capable matching the mileage of the average
> sedan, the difference in the amount of imported oil would be negligible, if
> noticeable at all. (my opinion)


Why an opinion rather than the facts? Oil consumption can be
measured, so there's no reason to inject baseless opinion.

> > Two parents and a kid can get around just fine in a mid-size sedan instead
> > of an Escalade, unless they are traitors and think it's OK that we
> > continue to finance the murderers of 3000 Americans in Manhattan.

>
> I'm sure you'd prefer to continue to finance the murderers of more than 2400
> Americans at Pearl Harbor.


Aren't the vast majority of those murderers dead and their descendants
admirers of the US? But if I accept your line of reasoning, then
Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama wants Detroit and its union workers
to go bankrupt so he can help the murderers' car companies.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:22 am
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Gosi wrote:

> Homicide is merely the act of killing a human. It is not necessarily a
> crime. Murder is a legal conclusion. It is a certain type of illegal
> homicide.
>
> For example, when a medical examiner determines cause of death, they
> may determine that it was homicide, which only means that the person
> was killed by another. That does not necessarily mean that the killing
> of the person was murder. The person may have been killed during self-
> defense. The killing may have been an accident.
>
> You have may have heard the term "justifiable homicide" before? This
> simply means that a person was killed (hence homicide) but it is not a
> crime (e.g. manslaughter or murder) because there was a legal
> justification for the killing.
>
> The word homicide comes from the root "hom," which is derived from
> homo sapien (or human), and the suffix "cide" refers to the act of
> killing. Similarly, the term suicide comes from the latin root "sui"
> which means self, and "cide" which is the act of killing.


No wonder you missed the meaning of those 3,000 dead and mentioned
43,000 automotive deaths.
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Old 13 Dec 2008, 07:39 am
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Hairy wrote:

> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2WF0l.26374$v37.6961@newsfe01.iad...


> No wonder you don't like suv's.
>
>> We're not anti-SUV guys. Rather, we would prefer to send as little money
>> as possible to the country whichsend lessAmericans in Manhattan a few
>> years back.

>
> And what country would that be?
>
> > Were you too young to understand the news just after 9/11? Saudi Arabia,
> > of course. One of our worst enemies.

>
> BTW, I'd like to see your evidence that proves that Saudi Arabia " arranged
> for the death of 3000 Americans". I know that there was talk that there *may
> have been* "factions" within SA that supported the attack, but as far as I
> know, no credible entity ever accused SA of being behind it.


How many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Arabians? How many were
not?

With what prominent Saudi family was GW Bush socializing when the 9/11
attacks occurred, and what was their relationship to al Qaeda?

Who were the primary financiers of the religious schools in
Afghanistan and Pakistan and the al Qaeda training bases in
Afghanistan?

What country's leadership went nuts when Death of a Princess aired
almost three decades ago? Think of what they would have done, oil-
wise, if we had accurately accused them of cohorting with the 9/11
hijackers.

It's very naive to not place the majority of blame with Saudi Arabia,
a nation whose royal family is full of Jew-hating, Christian-hating
religious fanactics, the most corrupt rulers in the world with an
average of only a fifth grade education. Keep helping al Qaeda and
Saudi Arabia by wasting energy.


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80 Knight wrote:

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> >> I'm sure you'd prefer to continue to finance the murderers of more than
> >> 2400 Americans at Pearl Harbor.

> >
> > Yeah. That's the same thing. <--sarcasm

>
> Why not? Because it was longer ago then 9/11? The Japanese Government
> can't be trusted, they have proved that time and again. You keep sending
> your $$$ to Japan, while sending our own industries into the toilet. If
> WWIII breaks out, Japan will supply us with the weapons, and equipment we
> need, right? <--sarcasm


Then by your logic, we should trust only France because they're the
sole country that's always been on our ally, unlike Britain, Germany,
and Japan.
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