Honda Car Forum

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On Dec 7, 1:48 pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
> <buydomes...@usa.com> wrote in message
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> > If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
> > and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
> > manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
> > States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
> > import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
> > engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
> > that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
> > from the Big Three and take our economy back.
>
> Import owner are traitors.

And we support Al Qaeda and all world-wide terrorists too, right?
Butthead. You must work directly or indirectly for an automaker.

No..wrong asshole, I just try to buy American when possible. I try to keep
as much of my money possible home. Instead of sending major profits half way
around the globe.

"Marko" <trakp@army.mil> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadotdeedot.net> wrote in message
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>> <buydomestic@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:880a57a2-9f6e-4fd7-b631-0543baf7e436@j32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>> If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
>>> and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
>>> manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
>>> States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
>>> import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
>>> engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
>>> that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
>>> from the Big Three and take our economy back.
>>
>> I say we buy what is the best, most economical, most intelligent buy.
>> The American automakers have screwed up time & again; they've become
>> mired in their own mud. Problem is... the mud's splattering.
>>
>> Cathy (aat)
>>
>>
> On average Japanese cars cost more. If you remove the name plates from
> most cars and just drive them most would be satisfied. Its just that so
> many people take hype as gospel. I know one person who says she doesnt
> like to even be seen in an American car, why I asked her, she gave a basic
> response that they were junk. I asked her what she owned, oh but she never
> owned a car at all, she was 19 or 20 or so. I asked what her parents had,
> she said they have alway had toyotas, nissans or whatever, never American.
> So there you go... the epitamy of ignorance abounds. I hope you are not
> caught up in it. Its like rap music, the most F'ed up music ever, with no
> talent performers spewing filthy lyrics with no melody and a violent beat,
> yet a generation of people know it really sucks but they listen just to be
> considered cool. Then they actually start to beleieve its good. Weak minds
> make weak souls.

You're talking to someone who owned a '72 Duster, followed by a '76 Datsun
B-210, and then 4 Toyota Corollas, starting in '84 -> the present. The
writing was on the wall by the mid-70's, but Detroit turned a blind eye &
just kept cranking out large &/or not-all-that-reliable &/or poorly designed
models. At this point I have no plans to go back to an American name brand
car. Next one will likely be an other Toyota - maybe a Prius, although a
Honda would be just as wise of a purchase. Both comapnies produce well made,
economical, & as far as cars go, relatively good resale/trade-in values.

Cathy

"AJL" <nomail@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message
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> buydomestic@usa.com wrote:
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>>If all Americans bought American cars
>
> My Chevy Suburban was made in Mexico. My Honda was made in the USA.
> Both have parts made all over the world. What exactly is an American
> car?

Here we go again....Chevy registered and sanctioned right here in the US.
Honda is japanese company registered in Japan. If GM decides to build Chevys
on Mars its still classified as a US production. You can think NAFTA for the
Suburban being built in Mexico.

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadotdeedot.net> wrote in message
> I say we buy what is the best, most economical, most intelligent buy. The
> American automakers have screwed up time & again; they've become mired in
> their own mud. Problem is... the mud's splattering.
>
> Cathy (aat)


Very logical...The Big 3 should maybe listen to the customer more.

I have no doubt the Big 3 can compete in quality and design if they wish to
do so, and if they market their products well, they should be competitive.

But talking isnt always doing. Do, Big 3

buydomestic@usa.com wrote:
> If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
> and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
> manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
> States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
> import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
> engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
> that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
> from the Big Three and take our economy back.



Maybe, when they value our business and loyalty, not just our bailout.

"HLS" <nospam@nospam.nix> wrote in message
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> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadotdeedot.net> wrote in message
>> I say we buy what is the best, most economical, most intelligent buy.
>> The American automakers have screwed up time & again; they've become
>> mired in their own mud. Problem is... the mud's splattering.
>>
>> Cathy (aat)
>
>
> Very logical...The Big 3 should maybe listen to the customer more.
>
> I have no doubt the Big 3 can compete in quality and design if they wish
> to
> do so, and if they market their products well, they should be competitive.
>
> But talking isnt always doing. Do, Big 3

With so much on the line, one has to wonder... why *haven't* they
accomplished the "do"??

Cathy

>
>

On Dec 7, 2:20*pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 7, 1:07 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:01:25 -0800, buydomestic wrote:
> > > If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
> > > and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
> > > manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
> > > States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
> > > import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
> > > engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
> > > that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
> > > from the Big Three and take our economy back.
>
> > idiot. "big three" are spending all their resources on ways to have their
> > stuff made in china and mexico. why should we support that?
>
> > japanese manufacturers make their stuff in the good old usa, with usa
> > components and usa workers. buy japanese instead.
>
> Amen! *And don't forget Ford's manufacturing plant in Brazil.
>
> This is not about Brazil, its about America. Are from Brazil?

Ford owns a plant in Brazil. Ford makes cars in South America to be
sold in S.A. and Europe and the US. They don't make the cars here to
be exported. Ford and the other US car makers are multinational
corporations.

Having a problem following the discussion?

On Dec 7, 2:58*pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
> <edspyhil...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:225c5947-dbe3-486c-9820-cd1727b16185@l39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 1:48 pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
>
> > <buydomes...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:880a57a2-9f6e-4fd7-b631-0543baf7e436@j32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
> > > and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
> > > manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
> > > States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
> > > import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
> > > engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
> > > that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
> > > from the Big Three and take our economy back.
>
> > Import owner are traitors.
>
> And we support Al Qaeda and all world-wide terrorists too, right?
> Butthead. *You must work directly or indirectly for an automaker.
>
> No..wrong asshole, I just try to buy American when possible. I try to keep
> as much of my money possible home. Instead of sending major profits half way
> around the globe.

What a skilled polemicist you are! Your premise and argument were DOA
before you clicked Send.

On Dec 7, 2:30*pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
> "Bentracer and Bentrider" <lowbi...@att.net> wrote in messagenews:0b99d083-e891-49cc-aa92-d2a579ec07f5@j32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 12:01 pm, buydomes...@usa.com wrote:
>
> > If all Americans bought American cars, the US economy would be rockin
> > and rollin right now. Don't give me that stuff about Toyota and Honda
> > manufacturing over here either. GM employs 130,000 in the United
> > States. Toyota employs 30,000, Honda less than that. Most of the
> > import jobs are just blue collar jobs also, where GM has over 50,000
> > engineers. The Japanese automakers have brainwashed us into thinking
> > that buying their car is an investment in this country. I say we buy
> > from the Big Three and take our economy back.
>
> i would not mind buying american cars again only if they can produce
> quality like Honda and Toyota
> until they can they and their UNIONS can go and $$$$ themselfs.
> they still have not learned from their own mistakes, they just keep
> producing the same old SHIT.
>
> You mean the quality like my Moms old Toyota, so many problems even before
> reacing 80k miles. Ended up selling it *to the mechanic. Fit and finishwise
> it was no different from any other car of the day. This being the late 80s.

How many times did she have the oil changed, once, twice?

On Dec 7, 3:02*pm, "Marko" <tr...@army.mil> wrote:
> "AJL" <nom...@fakeaddress.com> wrote in message
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> > buydomes...@usa.com wrote:
>
> >>If all Americans bought American cars
>
> > My Chevy Suburban was made in Mexico. My Honda was made in the USA.
> > Both have parts made all over the world. What exactly is an American
> > car?
>
> Here we go again....Chevy registered and sanctioned right here in the US.
> Honda is japanese company registered in Japan. If GM decides to build Chevys
> on Mars its still classified as a US production. You can think NAFTA for the
> Suburban being built in Mexico.

Only if American workers build it. Oh what, I get it. If you took
that logical position then Hondas and Toyotas made in America would be
American cars. The backward bend HAS to hurt.