Honda Car Forum

Thus spake Tony Harding <thardin@newsguy.com> :

>krw wrote:
>> In article <gfppom0dl0@news5.newsguy.com>, thardin@newsguy.com
>> says...
>>> krw wrote:
>>>> In article <elmop-E8A571.07260614112008@mara100-84.onlink.net>,
>>>> elmop@nastydesigns.com says...
>>>>> In article <t05Tk.6170$Ei5.4907@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>,
>>>>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They're not going broke because they're paying qualified mechanics to
>>>>>> perform service. They're going broke because people aren't buying new
>>>>>> cars. People aren't buying new cars because they're worried about their
>>>>>> jobs and because credit is tight.
>>>>> read that "...and because they can't get credit anyway".
>>>> Credit is still easy, unless perhaps you're a deadbeat (though even
>>>> they seem to still get loans). The dealers have 0% interest deals
>>>> (and modest rebates). The availability of credit for purchasing
>>>> cars (or homes) has nothing to do with any problems. Or should I
>>>> say, any problems haven't hit the personal credit markets.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking about buying a car but with a new job and house I would
>>>> rather not take any unnecessary risk with another loan or hitting
>>>> savings. The manufacturers aren't hungry enough yet to tilt the
>>>> balance. If they don't get far hungrier, I'll sit it out.
>>> Toyota was recently pushing 0% loans - doesn't get much cheaper than
>>> that.
>>
>> Sure it does. They give me $5K and I pay cash (or finance
>> elsewhere).
>>
>>> I generally pay cash for a car, but credit was so cheap when I
>>> bought my Accord in 06/03, I financed with Honda Finance with a 3.64%
>>> rate. I've consistently made > 10% at Vanguard (except for 2008), so I
>>> was happy to let Honda carry the paper on my car.
>>
>> The problem is that it *is* 2008. Finding a (safe) place to stick
>> money is a problem.
>
>True, but I bought my Honda in 2003 - different time.
>
>Re: a safe place for one's money, I heard Peter Schiff (sp?) on the
>radio this afternoon recommend dumping all USD based assets (inc. bonds,
>CD's, etc., IOW, any USD based asset) and move into foreign currencies
>(although he didn't say which ones). YMMV, of course.

It's way too late to do any currency speculation. I bought euros when
they were $.82. Sold at $1.35, as I figured it couldn't go much
higher. Bought pounds at $1.66 and sold at $1.92. Missed on the
first, did well on the second.

I'd short oil futures. December deliveries, only. OPEC could blow
things to shit in half a heartbeat.

>
>Schiff is an interesting guy in that he's been publishing books, widely
>ignored, which called the various economic meltdowns we're currently
>experiencing.

On Nov 13, 2:39*am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> "http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html"
The old Jiffy-Lube "wallet flush," I told them (at the door) oil & oil-
filter ---- only!!

Besides that oil chg crap, they (without my permission) removed the
cabin filter to try sell me that. I said no and then went around for
the next 2-3 months with the heater fan making noises.

NEVER Ever ----- going to Jippy-lube again.

ziggie wrote:
> On Nov 13, 2:39 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> "http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/flushservices.html"
> The old Jiffy-Lube "wallet flush," I told them (at the door) oil & oil-
> filter ---- only!!
>
> Besides that oil chg crap, they (without my permission) removed the
> cabin filter to try sell me that. I said no and then went around for
> the next 2-3 months with the heater fan making noises.
>
> NEVER Ever ----- going to Jippy-lube again.

If they just did oil changes, then they wouldn't be so dangerous (though
they seem to be able to screw those up on occasion as well). It's the
up-selling of services that can damage the vehicle and/or that they're
not qualified to perform, that makes them so dangerous.

Ziggie:

Don't bother with Jiffie Lube. Go to your local honda dealer. The
three or four around my home usually have oil changes for $30-$40,
which should be competitive with the "lube" places. The "lube" places
will pull out your micron or engine air filter and tell you it's
dirty. Of course they're dirty. Even after two weeks, they'll be
dirty. That doesn't mean they are at the end of their duty cycle.

C.

<claude.luu@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a02e820a-bfb9-49ae-8c65-99ef333b59e8@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> Ziggie:
>
> Don't bother with Jiffie Lube. Go to your local honda dealer. The
> three or four around my home usually have oil changes for $30-$40,
> which should be competitive with the "lube" places. The "lube" places
> will pull out your micron or engine air filter and tell you it's
> dirty. Of course they're dirty. Even after two weeks, they'll be
> dirty. That doesn't mean they are at the end of their duty cycle.
>
> C.

My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than Jiffy
Lube. I trust them a bit more.

mg


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

MG wrote:

> My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than Jiffy
> Lube. I trust them a bit more.

I don't trust dealers either -- it's entirely likely that they give you
an oil change for below cost and then ream you on an engine rebuild.

The local Cadillac dealers are as close to criminal as it's possible to
be and stay out of jail.

--
Cheers, Bev
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MG wrote:
> <claude.luu@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a02e820a-bfb9-49ae-8c65-99ef333b59e8@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>> Ziggie:
>>
>> Don't bother with Jiffie Lube. Go to your local honda dealer. The
>> three or four around my home usually have oil changes for $30-$40,
>> which should be competitive with the "lube" places. The "lube" places
>> will pull out your micron or engine air filter and tell you it's
>> dirty. Of course they're dirty. Even after two weeks, they'll be
>> dirty. That doesn't mean they are at the end of their duty cycle.
>>
>> C.
>
> My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than Jiffy
> Lube. I trust them a bit more.
>
> mg
>
>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Your dealer has late afternoon or Saturday hours for oil changes? No way
am I gonna take off work, or leave a car all day, for just an oil change.

--
aem sends...

"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
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> MG wrote:
>> <claude.luu@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a02e820a-bfb9-49ae-8c65-99ef333b59e8@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>>> Ziggie:
>>>
>>> Don't bother with Jiffie Lube. Go to your local honda dealer. The
>>> three or four around my home usually have oil changes for $30-$40,
>>> which should be competitive with the "lube" places. The "lube" places
>>> will pull out your micron or engine air filter and tell you it's
>>> dirty. Of course they're dirty. Even after two weeks, they'll be
>>> dirty. That doesn't mean they are at the end of their duty cycle.
>>>
>>> C.
>>
>> My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than
>> Jiffy Lube. I trust them a bit more.
>>
>> mg ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
> Your dealer has late afternoon or Saturday hours for oil changes? No way
> am I gonna take off work, or leave a car all day, for just an oil change.
>
> --
> aem sends...

Our local Toyota dealer charges $24.95 for an oil change in 29 minutes or
the next oil change is free, and the service and parts departments are open
Monday through Friday from 7:30 AM to midnight and Saturdays from 8:30 AM to
5:00 PM.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>
> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
> news:ZeGYk.166592$Mh5.163407@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> MG wrote:
>>> <claude.luu@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a02e820a-bfb9-49ae-8c65-99ef333b59e8@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Ziggie:
>>>>
>>>> Don't bother with Jiffie Lube. Go to your local honda dealer. The
>>>> three or four around my home usually have oil changes for $30-$40,
>>>> which should be competitive with the "lube" places. The "lube" places
>>>> will pull out your micron or engine air filter and tell you it's
>>>> dirty. Of course they're dirty. Even after two weeks, they'll be
>>>> dirty. That doesn't mean they are at the end of their duty cycle.
>>>>
>>>> C.
>>>
>>> My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than
>>> Jiffy Lube. I trust them a bit more.
>>>
>>> mg ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>> Your dealer has late afternoon or Saturday hours for oil changes? No way
>> am I gonna take off work, or leave a car all day, for just an oil change.
>>
>> --
>> aem sends...
>
> Our local Toyota dealer charges $24.95 for an oil change in 29 minutes or
> the next oil change is free, and the service and parts departments are
> open Monday through Friday from 7:30 AM to midnight and Saturdays from
> 8:30 AM to 5:00 PM.


My local Mazda dealer did an oil change AND a car wash. They did not
guarantee 30 minutes, but it was difficult to beat the price and service.

If a Toyota dealer has a 30-minute or less guarantee, or less, I can't see
any objection to getting an oil chage at the dealership, and the service
ought ot be superior to that of the quick-lube places.

Thus spake The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> :

>MG wrote:
>
>> My local Honda dealers go 22.95-26.95 for oil changes. Cheaper than Jiffy
>> Lube. I trust them a bit more.
>
>I don't trust dealers either -- it's entirely likely that they give you
>an oil change for below cost and then ream you on an engine rebuild.
>
>The local Cadillac dealers are as close to criminal as it's possible to
>be and stay out of jail.

I don't suppose you've noticed that all the judges are driving
Caddies.
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