Honda Car Forum

On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:52:33 +0100, Philippe Vessaire wrote:

> septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>> My 93 EX automatic has over 200K miles on it, I am recent nth. owner,
>> car runs perfectly but only gets low 30's with careful suburban
>> driving.
> I got 35mpg with a 2l4 european accord and 60mpg with a Corolla diesel
> 1l4...
>
> bye

one liter diesel? frugal, sure, but it must be truly gutless.

septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:
> My 93 EX automatic has over 200K miles on it, I am recent nth. owner,
> car runs perfectly but only gets low 30's with careful suburban
> driving.
>
> Based on experience, what one item would you suggest replacing that
> can have an immediate positive impact on fuel economy?
>
> Thanks in advance !
Hi,
Practise hypermiling.

Tony Hwang wrote:

> Hi,
> Practise hypermiling.

Which is an huge inconvenience to other drivers, especially those behind
you. Moreover, I'm not convinced it actually works.

A steady acceleration, not too fast and not too slow, helps to achieve
optimum fuel efficiency.

jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:7L-dnZVhYqlOM4jUnZ2dnUVZ_qzinZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:52:26 -0800, septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks ! What does "TW" stand for? What is its technical name?
>
> it's a thermistor used to measure the coolant temperature - "tw
> sensor" is its honda technical name. it even has "tw-5" stamped into
> the brass screw.
>
>


Some of them do, some of them don't, I've found.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Eternal Searcher wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Practise hypermiling.
>
> Which is an huge inconvenience to other drivers, especially those behind
> you. Moreover, I'm not convinced it actually works.

You can do a lot of the hypermile stuff w/o necessarily pissing everyone
else on the road. Just exercise some common courtesy toward your fellow
drivers.

With effort, I suspect anyone could nearly double his/her mileage. The
cost, in terms of mechanical wear and tear, traffic tickets, road rage
generated hospital bills, etc. would be prohibitive. Look at what this
obsessive can do:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...permilers.html


IMO, by adopting a few hypermile techniques, and applying them only when
traffic-appropriate, a typical driver can still increase their mileage
significantly.

> A steady acceleration, not too fast and not too slow, helps to achieve
> optimum fuel efficiency.

Most specific fuel consumption charts show best efficiency at low-medium
revs, with 40~80% throttle. This implies giving it a reasonable amount
of gas and shifting a little sooner than usual. It's not hard to do,
and you'll be only a little slower off the line than the idiots that
drag race from stop light to stop light. Couple this with stoplight and
traffic anticipation (stomping on the brakes is death to your mileage)
and you'll instantly gain several MPG in town.

septicman@peoplepc.com wrote:

> My 93 EX automatic has over 200K miles on it, I am recent nth. owner,
> car runs perfectly but only gets low 30's with careful suburban
> driving.
>
> Based on experience, what one item would you suggest replacing that
> can have an immediate positive impact on fuel economy?
>
> Thanks in advance !

Just install one of these setups!


=

Greg Campbell wrote:
> Eternal Searcher wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Practise hypermiling.
>>
>> Which is an huge inconvenience to other drivers, especially those behind
>> you. Moreover, I'm not convinced it actually works.
>
> You can do a lot of the hypermile stuff w/o necessarily pissing everyone
> else on the road. Just exercise some common courtesy toward your fellow
> drivers.
>
> With effort, I suspect anyone could nearly double his/her mileage. The
> cost, in terms of mechanical wear and tear, traffic tickets, road rage
> generated hospital bills, etc. would be prohibitive. Look at what this
> obsessive can do:
> http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...permilers.html
>
>
> IMO, by adopting a few hypermile techniques, and applying them only when
> traffic-appropriate, a typical driver can still increase their mileage
> significantly.
>
>> A steady acceleration, not too fast and not too slow, helps to achieve
>> optimum fuel efficiency.
>
> Most specific fuel consumption charts show best efficiency at low-medium
> revs, with 40~80% throttle. This implies giving it a reasonable amount
> of gas and shifting a little sooner than usual. It's not hard to do,
> and you'll be only a little slower off the line than the idiots that
> drag race from stop light to stop light. Couple this with stoplight and
> traffic anticipation (stomping on the brakes is death to your mileage)
> and you'll instantly gain several MPG in town.
>
>

What we really need to be looking at is how to get really good fuel
economy *without* being a road hazard and endangering the lives of
ourselves and our passengers. I've been doing this for years. It
involves thing like timing lights, coasting (with the engine ON)
accelerating slowly and then doing 55 or 50, and keeping the engine in
the 'eco zone' while climbing hills. I regularly get 41mpg in mixed
driving with my rather heavy '95 Civic EX sedan, and have gotten in the
mid 30s with out '95 Camry sedan - with automatic. I do use my A/C, but
only under low-load conditions like cruising on level ground and
decelerating. Of course, you also have to choose the right car; Civics,
Camrys and Corollas, Metros...