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Old 14 Sep 2008, 04:49 am
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Default Alternatives to engine steam cleaning

Anybody knows some that can be done at home?

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Old 14 Sep 2008, 05:03 pm
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Default Re: Alternatives to engine steam cleaning

Dabbler wrote:
> Anybody knows some that can be done at home?
>
> DB


you should never contemplate such an activity. it ruins electrical
connections because it blasts moisture under seals, and ruins bearings,
because it blasts dirt in. not to mention the water it gets into your
brake master cylinder...

if you have to "clean" under the hood, and reality is that you don't, as
above, use a scrub brush and a gentle hose. nothing more.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 08:35 pm
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Default Re: Alternatives to engine steam cleaning

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> you should never contemplate such an activity. it ruins electrical
> connections because it blasts moisture under seals, and ruins
> bearings, because it blasts dirt in. not to mention the water it gets
> into your brake master cylinder...
>
> if you have to "clean" under the hood, and reality is that you don't,
> as above, use a scrub brush and a gentle hose. nothing more.


That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the engine.
I drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems. As I
recall the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine steam
cleaning station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned, also
without any problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?

DB

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Old 14 Sep 2008, 08:41 pm
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Default Re: Alternatives to engine steam cleaning

Dabbler wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> you should never contemplate such an activity. it ruins electrical
>> connections because it blasts moisture under seals, and ruins
>> bearings, because it blasts dirt in. not to mention the water it gets
>> into your brake master cylinder...
>>
>> if you have to "clean" under the hood, and reality is that you don't,
>> as above, use a scrub brush and a gentle hose. nothing more.

>
> That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
> 30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
> they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the engine.
> I drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems. As I
> recall the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine steam
> cleaning station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned, also
> without any problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?


no, but i've done failure work on systems that have had exactly these
problems and the facts are as stated before - electrical, seals and
hydraulics.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 08:43 pm
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"Dabbler" <DB@freemail.invalid> wrote in message
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> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> you should never contemplate such an activity. it ruins electrical
>> connections because it blasts moisture under seals, and ruins bearings,
>> because it blasts dirt in. not to mention the water it gets into your
>> brake master cylinder...
>>
>> if you have to "clean" under the hood, and reality is that you don't, as
>> above, use a scrub brush and a gentle hose. nothing more.

>
> That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
> 30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
> they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the engine. I
> drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems. As I recall
> the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine steam cleaning
> station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned, also without any
> problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?
>
> DB


I clean my engine with that green liquid at the car wash place as well. It
gets rid of the grease and dirt pretty good.


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Old 15 Sep 2008, 03:42 am
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Dabbler wrote:

> That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
> 30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
> they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the engine.
> I drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems. As I
> recall the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine steam
> cleaning station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned, also
> without any problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?


It's a weird idea, as nobody gets to see the engine so why is it so
important ?

I don't know if engines have changed since then, but the idea of
squirting pressurized water and/or soap around all those exposed
mechanical and electrical parts just does not seem sensible at all, no
matter what way you look at it.

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Old 15 Sep 2008, 07:59 am
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Xenu The Enturbulator wrote:
> Dabbler wrote:
>
>> That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
>> 30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
>> they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the
>> engine. I drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems.
>> As I recall the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine
>> steam cleaning station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned,
>> also without any problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?

>
> It's a weird idea, as nobody gets to see the engine so why is it so
> important ?
>
> I don't know if engines have changed since then, but the idea of
> squirting pressurized water and/or soap around all those exposed
> mechanical and electrical parts just does not seem sensible at all, no
> matter what way you look at it.
>


probably a "2ner" that wants to lay about in a parking lot with the hood
open letting the sun's uv rays destroy all his electrical and plumbing.

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Old 15 Sep 2008, 10:02 am
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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Dabbler wrote:
>> Anybody knows some that can be done at home?
>>
>> DB

>
> you should never contemplate such an activity. it ruins electrical
> connections because it blasts moisture under seals, and ruins bearings,
> because it blasts dirt in. not to mention the water it gets into your
> brake master cylinder...
>
> if you have to "clean" under the hood, and reality is that you don't, as
> above, use a scrub brush and a gentle hose. nothing more.


That is very interesting warning, because I own 1995 toyota camry with
246 thousands miles on the odometer and it gets once, sometimes
twice a year engine cleaning with the pressurized soap and water...
And guess what - no problems.
I am sure nobody is putting the pressurized nozzle into the alternator
vent holes or under the spark plugs covers aiming with the nozzle into
the metal engine parts only keeping low pressure for the rest of stuff...

The reason I do it is not for people look at my clean engine and admire
it, because as some of you stated it is under the hood and not visible.

The reason is for my own convenience to work on a clean engine so
I will not look like a grease monkey after just replacing the air filter or
so.
I think that cleanliness is the condition for any good work on your car :-)

Other reason is that on a clean engine without a gray layer of dirt on all
parts unexperienced mechanic like myself can easier recognise parts
and spot some potential problems in advance just by looking at things.
If something starts leaking you will have a better chance to notice it
on a overall clean engine than on an engine which is normally greasy...

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Old 15 Sep 2008, 12:32 pm
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"Xenu The Enturbulator" <xenu@galacticfederation.org> wrote in message
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> Dabbler wrote:
>
>> That's interesting because after I bought my car from a bank with some
>> 30+K miles in it and took it first time to a Honda dealer for service,
>> they recommended and actually performed a steam cleaning on the engine. I
>> drove over 200K miles since then without any major problems. As I recall
>> the early '80s, several car washes used to have an engine steam cleaning
>> station where I used to have my previous cars cleaned, also without any
>> problems afterward. Did engines changed since then?

>
> It's a weird idea, as nobody gets to see the engine so why is it so
> important ?


I hope in your home you clean not only rooms where you invite guests ;-)

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Old 15 Sep 2008, 01:35 pm
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Pszemol wrote:

>> It's a weird idea, as nobody gets to see the engine so why is it so
>> important ?

>
> I hope in your home you clean not only rooms where you invite guests ;-)


I do, but I don't clean my unconverted roofspace, or the space beneath
my ground floor boards.
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