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Old 02 Apr 2008, 11:04 pm
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Default '94 Accord 208k Cylinder #3 Not Firing

'94 Accord Sedan LX 208k

Yesterday while climbing a hill I felt a loss of power and suddenly a
lot of shaking. Prior to this the car had run smoothly, but did smoke
blue smoke at start up. Last night I changed out the plugs. Most had
oil on them so I changed out the valve cover and plug gaskets. The
smoke has since stopped, but cylinder #3 is not firing. The old plug
was black, and the new one was black too after running for a minute. I
know the wires are good, I didn't know better and tested the voltage
with the engine running and I think I burned my multimeter out.

I'm pretty sure compression in #3 is fine because I accidentally
started the car without the plug in and it sounded like a really loud
lawn mower or helicopter.

So now that I have run the car and fixed the gaskets, if I put a brand
new plug in #3 will it work? And will plugs covered in the black
carbon deposit stuff still fire, or are they toast?


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Old 03 Apr 2008, 09:42 am
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Default Re: '94 Accord 208k Cylinder #3 Not Firing

overconsolidated@gmail.com wrote:
> '94 Accord Sedan LX 208k

I didn't know better and tested the voltage
> with the engine running and I think I burned my multimeter out.


========That's how we learn.


> I'm pretty sure compression in #3 is fine because I accidentally
> started the car without the plug in and it sounded like a really loud
> lawn mower or helicopter.


=========== When the car runs without a 'path' for the high voltage from
a plug wire, the arc can travel through the distributor and wreck the
igniter. Lets hope not. Since Hondas have no single high tension wire
you can isolate I like to put the plugs in a stainless steel cup with
the wires attached. I run a ground wire to the cup.

> So now that I have run the car and fixed the gaskets, if I put a brand
> new plug in #3 will it work? And will plugs covered in the black
> carbon deposit stuff still fire, or are they toast?


============== Buy yourself four new NGK plugs or clean up the dirty
ones. You may have blazed a new trail for the spark under the
distributor cap. How new is the cap and rotor?

'Curly'
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Old 03 Apr 2008, 09:56 am
Elle
 
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Default Re: '94 Accord 208k Cylinder #3 Not Firing

<overconsolidated@gmail.com> wrote
> '94 Accord Sedan LX 208k
>
> Yesterday while climbing a hill I felt a loss of power and
> suddenly a
> lot of shaking. Prior to this the car had run smoothly,
> but did smoke
> blue smoke at start up. Last night I changed out the
> plugs. Most had
> oil on them so I changed out the valve cover and plug
> gaskets.


Unfortunately there is one other set of seals that likely
are failing at this point and causing the oil to get on the
plug tops. See discussion at
http://honda.lioness.googlepages.com...sparkplugtubes

The
> smoke has since stopped, but cylinder #3 is not firing.
> The old plug
> was black, and the new one was black too after running for
> a minute. I
> know the wires are good, I didn't know better and tested
> the voltage
> with the engine running and I think I burned my multimeter
> out.


How old are the wires and are they OEM?

Are you using OEM plugs?


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Old 03 Apr 2008, 03:29 pm
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Default Re: '94 Accord 208k Cylinder #3 Not Firing

On Apr 3, 8:56*am, "Elle" <honda.lion...@spamnocox.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately there is one other set of seals that likely
> are failing at this point and causing the oil to get on the
> plug tops. See discussion athttp://honda.lioness.googlepages.com/oilinthesparkplugtubes
>


There is no more oil in the plug chambers. The wires are working and
sparking fine. Is it possible that maybe some residue from burning oil
has clogged the injectors?
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Old 03 Apr 2008, 06:14 pm
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overconsolidated@gmail.com wrote in news:ab23f681-77fd-4ffc-bb74-
47623e4e651c@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> '94 Accord Sedan LX 208k
>
> Yesterday while climbing a hill I felt a loss of power and suddenly a
> lot of shaking. Prior to this the car had run smoothly, but did smoke
> blue smoke at start up. Last night I changed out the plugs. Most had
> oil on them so I changed out the valve cover and plug gaskets. The
> smoke has since stopped, but cylinder #3 is not firing. The old plug
> was black, and the new one was black too after running for a minute. I
> know the wires are good, I didn't know better and tested the voltage
> with the engine running and I think I burned my multimeter out.
>
> I'm pretty sure compression in #3 is fine because I accidentally
> started the car without the plug in and it sounded like a really loud
> lawn mower or helicopter.




Check the compression anyway. I think you broke a ring.



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Tegger

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