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"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote

> lets get this straight - you show up out of the blue, you ask badly
> constructed and poorly considered questions, then get all pissed because
> the people you're asking really can't be bothered with your shit, but it's
> all their fault??? dude, knowing how to read the owners manual is the
> least of your problems.

You are a gigantic pussy.

Bottom line: your life sucks so bad you need this newsgroup to make youself
feel better.

Reality: dude asked a question, and you flew in with your usual shit.

If you were a human being, you would have helped.

But you hate yourself, so you project it onto others instead by insulting
them.

Its clear to everyone except those that are just like you, like your little
buddy Elmo, which obviously is your email partner in these postings.

Tell me I'm wrong..that you haven't sent each other emails saying how much
you hate when people do this or that and how you both are gonna let folks
really have it when they piss you off.

Tell me I'm wrong...that'll make you a liar also.

Polfus

Avalon1178 <Avalon1178@gmail.com> wrote in news:b025dbf2-18da-4cca-a86b-
a02a12e96783@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

>
>> lets get this straight - you show up out of the blue, you ask badly
>> constructed and poorly considered questions, then get all pissed because
>> the people you're asking really can't be bothered with your shit, but
>> it's all their fault??? *dude, knowing how to read the owners manual is
>> the least of your problems.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>
> Okay, I guess we can put you in the same horse stable as Elmo and
> Howard. I think someone needs to replace the hay you guys have been
> eating.
>
> Read my original question again. If you people don't want to be
> bothered with my question, then don't respond at all, instead of
> saying some smartass response like I don't know what I'm talking
> about. Its a simple question given the fact that I drove an older
> model before purchasing a new one. And if you can't follow this
> "badly constructed and poorly considered question", then I guess
> you're just as stupid for not carefully reading it before posting your
> response. This is a usenet group, not grammar school.




Your answer was given in the very first reply to your original message.

Elmo directed you to consult your Owner's Manual, which covers Maintenance
on pages 307 through 313.

Page 310 has a diagram of the Maintenance Minder readout in the instrument
cluster, along with some description of how it works. Among the
descriptions is this snippet: "All maintenance items displayed on the
information display are in code. For an explanation of these
maintenance codes, see page 313."

It's a bit unfair to fail to perform a basic requirement of new-car
ownership, then get mad at people who advise you to do it.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Polfus wrote:
>
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>
>> lets get this straight - you show up out of the blue, you ask badly
>> constructed and poorly considered questions, then get all pissed
>> because the people you're asking really can't be bothered with your
>> shit, but it's all their fault??? dude, knowing how to read the
>> owners manual is the least of your problems.
>
> You are a gigantic pussy.
>
> Bottom line: your life sucks so bad you need this newsgroup to make
> youself feel better.
>
> Reality: dude asked a question, and you flew in with your usual shit.
>
> If you were a human being, you would have helped.
>
> But you hate yourself, so you project it onto others instead by
> insulting them.
>
> Its clear to everyone except those that are just like you, like your
> little buddy Elmo, which obviously is your email partner in these postings.
>
> Tell me I'm wrong..that you haven't sent each other emails saying how
> much you hate when people do this or that and how you both are gonna let
> folks really have it when they piss you off.
>
> Tell me I'm wrong...that'll make you a liar also.
>


how old are you?

Your questions are perfectly well-communicated. Furthermore,
they are asked so often this ought to be an FAQ.

I have read a fair amount on Honda's maintenance minder over
the last several years. I have also read reports here on
when it has signaled that the oil is due for a change. In my
opinion, one can rely on it (of course; the engineers are
not dummies) instead of many old customs such as change the
oil every 5000 miles/6 months (or whatever one's preferred
frequency is based on driving conditions).

Of course few read the owner's manual cover to cover. Issues
certainly arise that are not covered in the owner's manual
and so need to be addressed either by Honda subsequently;
word of mouth; etc.

How the Maintenance Minder works is not covered in the
manual. The first time I heard about this latest
bell-whistle-gizmo, I was not trusting until I had at least
a basic description of how the MM computer yada worked.

As for the flack from a few parties here: It represents the
usual cowardice to troubleshoot the whole problem. The whole
problem of course includes not only the car's ailment but
also communicating effectively how to fix the car's ailment.
How much brains does it take to communicate simple, literal
principles? I actually think the usual shadetree mechanic or
highly trained technician has more than enough brains to do
so. Many "just" need to have it pointed out to them that the
problem is two-fold and be asked to think in advance: What's
going to get us to the practical solution quickest and with
the greatest future return on my time's investment?

Some are just troll-ish out of sport. Usenet and all.

Post-back if you want some links on how the Maintenance
Minder works.


"Avalon1178" <Avalon1178@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi, I recently bought a new 2008 Honda Civic Sedan EX
> after my older
> model (2005) was totalled during a car accident. I'm
> still getting
> used to the new car but so far so good. One big big
> change with the
> new car is what appears to be the absence of a maintenance
> schedule.
> I'm used to going to the service at 5000 miles intervals
> and following
> the owner's manual as to when to service my car. Now with
> all the new
> features in the 2008 model like maintenance reminders etc,
> and the
> absence of a schedule maintenance in the owner's manual,
> is there no
> point to following your standard 5000 miles scheduled
> maintenance to,
> say, get your oil change etc or your typical
> 10,000-interval mile
> service to a shop (like tire rotation, brake fluid check,
> etc)?

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote

> Polfus wrote:
>>
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>>
>>> lets get this straight - you show up out of the blue, you ask badly
>>> constructed and poorly considered questions, then get all pissed because
>>> the people you're asking really can't be bothered with your shit, but
>>> it's all their fault??? dude, knowing how to read the owners manual is
>>> the least of your problems.
>>
>> You are a gigantic pussy.
>>
>> Bottom line: your life sucks so bad you need this newsgroup to make
>> youself feel better.
>>
>> Reality: dude asked a question, and you flew in with your usual shit.
>>
>> If you were a human being, you would have helped.
>>
>> But you hate yourself, so you project it onto others instead by insulting
>> them.
>>
>> Its clear to everyone except those that are just like you, like your
>> little buddy Elmo, which obviously is your email partner in these
>> postings.
>>
>> Tell me I'm wrong..that you haven't sent each other emails saying how
>> much you hate when people do this or that and how you both are gonna let
>> folks really have it when they piss you off.
>>
>> Tell me I'm wrong...that'll make you a liar also.
>>
>
>
> how old are you?


Looks like I'm not wrong, then.

Polfus

Polfus wrote:
>
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>
>> Polfus wrote:
>>>
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>>>
>>>> lets get this straight - you show up out of the blue, you ask badly
>>>> constructed and poorly considered questions, then get all pissed
>>>> because the people you're asking really can't be bothered with your
>>>> shit, but it's all their fault??? dude, knowing how to read the
>>>> owners manual is the least of your problems.
>>>
>>> You are a gigantic pussy.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: your life sucks so bad you need this newsgroup to make
>>> youself feel better.
>>>
>>> Reality: dude asked a question, and you flew in with your usual shit.
>>>
>>> If you were a human being, you would have helped.
>>>
>>> But you hate yourself, so you project it onto others instead by
>>> insulting them.
>>>
>>> Its clear to everyone except those that are just like you, like your
>>> little buddy Elmo, which obviously is your email partner in these
>>> postings.
>>>
>>> Tell me I'm wrong..that you haven't sent each other emails saying how
>>> much you hate when people do this or that and how you both are gonna
>>> let folks really have it when they piss you off.
>>>
>>> Tell me I'm wrong...that'll make you a liar also.
>>>
>>
>>
>> how old are you?
>
>
> Looks like I'm not wrong, then.
>
> Polfus
>

your contributions are inane and childish. they lack any honda-related
merit. and you get fixated on schoolyard snot-smearing. how old are you?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-8DED4E.18582102022008@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article
> <ed029d0e-1e8d-47d3-bbcc-ac5fb0f30958@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Avalon1178 <Avalon1178@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > That's where your brain comes in. If that doesn't work, visit the
>> > dealer, to
>> > whom you gave many thousands of dollars, and ask how this new "system"
>> > works.
>>
>> WTF? What's your problem? Are you the sorry son of a Honda dealer/
>> salesman that one little critique of the maintenance schedule got your
>> little feathers all ruffled?
>
> You manufactured a circumstance that (a) wouldn't happen, or (b) is
> easily rectified if it did happen by mistake--and used that as "this is
> why I need a time/miles maintenance schedule!"
>
> Quit manufacturing things to be worried about. Sheesh. You're like an
> old woman.
>

My Honda dealer routinely forgets to reset the maintenence reminder.

On Feb 3, 7:26*am, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> Your questions are perfectly well-communicated. Furthermore,
> they are asked so often this ought to be an FAQ.
>
> I have read a fair amount on Honda's maintenance minder over
> the last several years. I have also read reports here on
> when it has signaled that the oil is due for a change. In my
> opinion, one can rely on it (of course; the engineers are
> not dummies) instead of many old customs such as change the
> oil every 5000 miles/6 months (or whatever one's preferred
> frequency is based on driving conditions).
>

Great. That's all I wanted to hear. If people were just to respond
with the same courtesy and respect like you did, I don't think this
thread would've gone this long. I personally like this schedule
minder, but since this is the first time I've driven a vehicle with
this feature, I think its just natural to ask how accurate this is and
what other people think of it. But if from what you heard is that it
is fairly accurate, then that's great. I also would like to hear how
other people think of it from their experience.

But as you can tell, I thought I asked a very basic question and I
expected a fairly straightforward response. I have little tolerance
to those who respond with no courtesy or respect, just so they can
feel like they're superior or know more than others.

> Of course few read the owner's manual cover to cover. Issues
> certainly arise that are not covered in the owner's manual
> and so need to be addressed either by Honda subsequently;
> word of mouth; etc.
>
> How the Maintenance Minder works is not covered in the
> manual. The first time I heard about this latest
> bell-whistle-gizmo, I was not trusting until I had at least
> a basic description of how the MM computer yada worked.
>
> As for the flack from a few parties here: It represents the
> usual cowardice to troubleshoot the whole problem. The whole
> problem of course includes not only the car's ailment but
> also communicating effectively how to fix the car's ailment.
> How much brains does it take to communicate simple, literal
> principles? I actually think the usual shadetree mechanic or
> highly trained technician has more than enough brains to do
> so. Many "just" need to have it pointed out to them that the
> problem is two-fold and be asked to think in advance: What's
> going to get us to the practical solution quickest and with
> the greatest future return on my time's investment?
>
> Some are just troll-ish out of sport. Usenet and all.
>
> Post-back if you want some links on how the Maintenance
> Minder works.
>

Actually, that would be great if you don't mind sending some links
about this Maintenance Minder. Do you know if this is unique to the
new Honda models only or do most cars have this technology now?

As I mentioned, before my new car I drove a 2005 Honda Civic. My
dealer tells me with my old car that to keep it in good condition, to
always do scheduled maintenance of every 10,000 miles (minor service,
in addition to oil change at every 5000...then I think major service
every 30,000). With the new maintenance minder, do you think this
concept still applies?

"Avalon" <Avalon1178@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8f93ddb-af09-42db-894f-1400ab059233@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 3, 7:26 am, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

> Actually, that would be great if you don't mind sending some links
> about this Maintenance Minder. Do you know if this is unique to the
> new Honda models only or do most cars have this technology now?

It's become fairly common. I can say that BMW and Chevy have been doing it
for a number of years.

> As I mentioned, before my new car I drove a 2005 Honda Civic. My
> dealer tells me with my old car that to keep it in good condition, to
> always do scheduled maintenance of every 10,000 miles (minor service,
> in addition to oil change at every 5000...then I think major service
> every 30,000). With the new maintenance minder, do you think this
> concept still applies?

That concept still applies, for adding income to the dealership. Did your
previous owners manual jive with that?

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote

> My Honda dealer routinely forgets to reset the maintenence reminder.

That sucks...it doesn't inspire confidence in the dealer, IMHO.

Peace,
Polfus