Honda Car Forum

"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in message news:PqVjj.1811$Rg1.1182@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> Not really, you can use the extra to clean your windows.

I would prefer to have a choice: pour whole bottle
or leave couple of drops on the bottom for cleaning.

I know it is a small think, really a detail, but
it is showing that Honda does not care about details.

Maybe it's
> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
>

Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....

>
> I know it is a small think, really a detail, but
> it is showing that Honda does not care about details.

Perhaps it was designed with a metric volume in mind.

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message news:ZTVjj.40108$Pv2.13894@newssvr23.news.prodigy. net...
> Maybe it's
>> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
>> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
> Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
> my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....

I wonder how much savings honda got not doing these things.
I got EX-L trim, you would expect it to be fully loaded - such a wrong idea.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:14:13 -0600, Pszemol <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote:
>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message news:slrnfovml0.ose.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> For the same reason you don't design all cars with a 200 gallon fuel tank.
>
>This is your second stupid analogy in this thread...

No. You're just too stupid to get it. There are compromises made in
designing cars. It's lovely to have a 200 gallon fuel tank, but size
and weight make it impossible.

"Robert Barr" <not@for.harvest> wrote in message news:1VVjj.40109$Pv2.12175@newssvr23.news.prodigy. net...
>> I know it is a small think, really a detail, but
>> it is showing that Honda does not care about details.
>
> Perhaps it was designed with a metric volume in mind.

Well, the reason for this design decision is unknown.
Toyota designing camry could also just get lucky... :-)

"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message news:slrnfp18ck.nn.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:14:13 -0600, Pszemol <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote:
>>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message news:slrnfovml0.ose.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>>> For the same reason you don't design all cars with a 200 gallon fuel tank.
>>
>>This is your second stupid analogy in this thread...
>
> No. You're just too stupid to get it. There are compromises made in
> designing cars. It's lovely to have a 200 gallon fuel tank, but size
> and weight make it impossible.

You completelly missed the point, and that is why your
analogy is simply stupid. I am not arguing I want
20 gallon reservoir for a washer fluid to keep me going
for two years - I am complaining that the reservoir is
unable to fit a STANDARD RETAIL PACKAGE of the product.

Get it now?

"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote
> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL
> bottle
> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required
> mainenance.

I personally am finding much of the "fancy" electronics to
be more trouble than they're worth.

I am on an extended visit in a house with a heat pump with
too many electronics to it. Four visits so far from the
repair technician in one year. Contrast this with my own
house's furnace: Four years and no problems whatsoever.

Same deal with newer cars. So much of the electronics are
bells and whistles or break too often.

my 2008 civic LX (canadian version) has heated mirrors and a washer jug that
accomodates 4L (just over 1 gallon) no problem.

My 98 civic also takes over a gallon of washer fluid.

t

Pszemol wrote:
>> Maybe it's
>>> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
>>> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>>
>> Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
>> my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....
>
>I wonder how much savings honda got not doing these things.
>I got EX-L trim, you would expect it to be fully loaded - such a wrong idea.

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On Jan 18, 10:50*am, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote:
> my 2008 civic LX (canadian version) has heated mirrors and a washer jug that
> accomodates 4L (just over 1 gallon) no problem.
>
> My 98 civic also takes over a gallon of washer fluid.
>
> t
>
> Pszemol wrote:
> >> *Maybe it's
> >>> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
> >>> of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
>
> >> Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. *We don't. *Even
> >> my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. *Grr.....
>
> >I wonder how much savings honda got not doing these things.
> >I got EX-L trim, you would expect it to be fully loaded - such a wrong idea.
>
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I work for a company that makes master cylinder reservours for the
brake system manufacturers and we also make a few washer bottles. The
whole thing comes down to space. The master cylinder reservoir and the
washer fluid reservoirs are one of the last things designed for the
engine compartment. All the hardware that must be there and has to be
in a particular position are put into the envelope and the the master
cylinder reservoir is designed and squeezed into whatever space is
left which will allow the correct fluid volume for all the federally
mandated brake system tests. It is even worse for the washer bottle.
It gets squashed into whatever room is left and sometimes that space
allows for a gallon and sometimes not. Since there is no federal
regulation on the amount of washer fluid available, you get what fits.
I hope this helps.