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I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
before I should expect the leather sits to crack?

What is the best way to extend their life expectancy?

BTW - are the sits made from *real* leather? I have
my doubts looking at the map pocket behind the sit,
which looks like just black vinyl with white foam
or cloth undercoating...

Pszemol wrote:
> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
>

My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new. YMMV.

dan

"dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
> Pszemol wrote:
>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
>
> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.

Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
How do you take care for your leather?

68Pszemol wrote:
> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
>> Pszemol wrote:
>>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
>>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
>>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
>>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
>>
>> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.
>
> Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
> How do you take care for your leather?

I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner had
"perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
stealership that had a 5 year warranty.

I think the wear and tear has a lot to do with the owner of the vehicle.

I have not, and do not plan on using any chemicals on the seats whatsoever.

dan

"dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:4S6Xi.104$OW1.111726@news.sisna.com...
> 68Pszemol wrote:
>> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
>>> Pszemol wrote:
>>>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
>>>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
>>>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
>>>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
>>>
>>> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.
>>
>> Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
>> How do you take care for your leather?
>
> I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
> 68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
> is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
> there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner had
> "perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
> stealership that had a 5 year warranty.

Well, you gave very missleading statement then... :-)

Anybody reading your first post here about 18 years
old car could have imagined a car with a normal driving
schedule of 12k-15k miles per year, so it would mean
a car with milleage of 216-270k ->>> Good luck
finding such car with original leather sits in good
condition... :-)

Sits are not geting damage from being in the garage
for years - they get damage from sitting on them :-)
Getting in and out of vehicle, temperature changes,
UV rays and humidity, etc...

> I think the wear and tear has a lot to do with the owner of the vehicle.

What exactly do you mean?

> I have not, and do not plan on using any chemicals on the seats whatsoever.

With that rate of driving I would not either...
I got my '04 accord in May '07 with 38k miles - now in November it has 48k.
Probably somewhere next year I will hit 68k and get equal wear with
your 18 years old car :-)

Pszemol wrote:

>>> How do you take care for your leather?
>>
If it ain't broke...

dan

"dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message news:tUoXi.6$Et6.48176@news.sisna.com...
> Pszemol wrote:
>
>>>> How do you take care for your leather?
>>>
> If it ain't broke...

I am not trying to fix something not broken.
I want to PREVENT premature crack - can you see the difference?

"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
news:fgko5i.e1o.0@poczta.onet.pl...
> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:tUoXi.6$Et6.48176@news.sisna.com...
>> Pszemol wrote:
>>
>>>>> How do you take care for your leather?
>>>>
>> If it ain't broke...
>
> I am not trying to fix something not broken.
> I want to PREVENT premature crack - can you see the difference?


'01 Accord w/leather. 194,000 miles. No care taken, no rips or tears.

"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:fmrXi.339$JS6.151@newsfe10.lga...
> '01 Accord w/leather. 194,000 miles. No care taken, no rips or tears.

Thanks - much more convincing :-)

Pszemol wrote:
> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:4S6Xi.104$OW1.111726@news.sisna.com...
>> 68Pszemol wrote:
>>> "dan" <dan@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>> news:G06Xi.101$kV1.31776@news.sisna.com...
>>>> Pszemol wrote:
>>>>> I am looking at my driver sit leather and I see it
>>>>> significantly wrinkled - not cracked yet, but...
>>>>> The car is 2004 with 48000 miles on it - how long
>>>>> before I should expect the leather sits to crack?
>>>>
>>>> My leather seats are 18 years old and are like new.
>>>
>>> Cool, how much driving have you done during these 18yr?
>>> How do you take care for your leather?
>>
>> I should have said the car has been garaged it's whole life, and has
>> 68K miles. Usually only has a driver and no passengers. The back seat
>> is like brand new and the fronts are real nice. I don't think that
>> there has been anything done to the seats except the original owner
>> had "perma-plate leatherguard" and "vinyl protectant" applied at the
>> stealership that had a 5 year warranty.
>
> Well, you gave very missleading statement then... :-)
>
> Anybody reading your first post here about 18 years
> old car could have imagined a car with a normal driving
> schedule of 12k-15k miles per year, so it would mean
> a car with milleage of 216-270k ->>> Good luck
> finding such car with original leather sits in good
> condition... :-)
>
> Sits are not geting damage from being in the garage
> for years

Au contraire, I beg to differ here, time is certainly a factor in the
service life of leather seats. True, no one's sliding in and out of them
while the car's garaged, but they're aging nonetheless, e.g., drying out
& splitting or cracking, being attacked by whatever air pollution flies
around your neighborhood, dust (dirt) settling on them, etc.