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Here's an oddball question.

My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a minor
annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.

When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
common? Can it be 'fixed'?

TIA

Jim

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Here's an oddball question.
>
> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
> pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a minor
> annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.
>
> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
> common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>



When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle facing
towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?

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Tegger wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Here's an oddball question.
>>
>> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
>> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
>> pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a minor
>> annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.
>>
>> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
>> common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>>
>
>
>
> When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle facing
> towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?
>

Toward the middle of the car.

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
news:47140dcf$0$20588$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Tegger wrote:
>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> Here's an oddball question.
>>>
>>> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling
>>> it won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the
>>> door pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a
>>> minor annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.
>>>
>>> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is
>>> this common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle
>> facing towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?
>>
>
> Toward the middle of the car.
>



So...

If I understand this correctly, the belt experiences NO twist between
pillar mount and buckle? Correct?

If so, I'm having trouble following how it gets twisted. How are you doing
it up?

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Tegger wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
> news:47140dcf$0$20588$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4713f364$0$19575
>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>
>>>> Here's an oddball question.
>>>>
>>>> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling
>>>> it won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the
>>>> door pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a
>>>> minor annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.
>>>>
>>>> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is
>>>> this common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When you feed the belt all the way back in properly, is the buckle
>>> facing towards the middle of the car or towards the door panel?
>>>
>> Toward the middle of the car.
>>
>
>
>
> So...
>
> If I understand this correctly, the belt experiences NO twist between
> pillar mount and buckle? Correct?

Not correct, exactly.

>
> If so, I'm having trouble following how it gets twisted. How are you doing
> it up?
>

If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a 90
degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the pillar mount.

Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism, through
the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward the middle of
the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)

Hmmmm, describing it makes me wonder if the pillar mount is not
swiveling freely toward the front when I put the belt on...

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door

My 2003 Civic is the same way. It just seems like the rewinder thingie
needs more umph.

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dold@61.usenet.us.com wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
>> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
>
> My 2003 Civic is the same way. It just seems like the rewinder thingie
> needs more umph.
>

That could be it too. Then again, I need more umph these days...

On Oct 15, 7:10 pm, Nasty <Nastymych...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>snip
>
> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
> common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>
> TIA
>
> Jim

Jim,

If you find an answer (other than replacement) let me know so I can
use it on my '98 Sienna. Yeah, old age - the retraction mechanism just
doesn't have that zip anymore and the seatbelt webbing is more pliable
allowing it to twist more easily than when new. But I don't find this
nearly as annoying as a new car payment. :-)

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
news:471422f1$0$19650$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

>>
>
> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a
> 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
> pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the pillar mount.
>
> Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism, through
> the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward the middle of
> the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
> as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)


That would help.

When these belts come from the factory, there are no folds in them
anywhere. If yours twists 90 degrees, then it's been folded over at some
point, and somebody then tried to fix it by simply turning the buckle
around. There may be another fold hidden inside.

Pull the belt out ALL the way and see if you can arrange to remove the
fold(s). I think once you determine if there are any other folds and
remove them, you may find you need to turn the buckle around again.


>
> Hmmmm, describing it makes me wonder if the pillar mount is not
> swiveling freely toward the front when I put the belt on...
>


Could be. But I've never seen one that didn't swivel unless it had been
taken apart at some point and reassembled incorrectly.

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Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4715024a$0$11007
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:


>
> Sorry about the size in the first set. Hopefully these are better.


It is inappropriate to post binaries in a non-binary group. There are
plenty of places to post pics these days.



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