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Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4714e4a3$0$20641
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Tegger wrote:
>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:471422f1$0$19650$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a
>>> 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
>>> pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the pillar mount.
>>>
>>> Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism, through
>>> the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward the middle of
>>> the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
>>> as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)
>>
>>
>> That would help.
>
> Pics attached.
>


The pics don't tell much at all.

Did you try pulling the belt out ALL the way until it stops, to see if
there are any more twists in the webbing?

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Tegger wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4714e4a3$0$20641
> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
>>> news:471422f1$0$19650$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>
>>>> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has a
>>>> 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just below the
>>>> pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the pillar mount.
>>>>
>>>> Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism, through
>>>> the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward the middle of
>>>> the car then toward the front, creating the 90 degree fold. (If you're
>>>> as confused as this sounds I'll post a picture tomorrow.)
>>>
>>> That would help.
>> Pics attached.
>>
>
>
> The pics don't tell much at all.
>
> Did you try pulling the belt out ALL the way until it stops, to see if
> there are any more twists in the webbing?

Yes, there are none. Maybe the retractor just isn't pulling hard enough.
That would be r&r time or just live with it right?

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
news:471510dd$0$15395$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Tegger wrote:
>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4714e4a3$0$20641
>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
>>>> news:471422f1$0$19650$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>>
>>>>> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has
>>>>> a 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just
>>>>> below the pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the
>>>>> pillar mount.
>>>>>
>>>>> Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism,
>>>>> through the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward
>>>>> the middle of the car then toward the front, creating the 90
>>>>> degree fold. (If you're as confused as this sounds I'll post a
>>>>> picture tomorrow.)
>>>>
>>>> That would help.
>>> Pics attached.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The pics don't tell much at all.
>>
>> Did you try pulling the belt out ALL the way until it stops, to see
>> if there are any more twists in the webbing?
>
> Yes, there are none. Maybe the retractor just isn't pulling hard
> enough.
> That would be r&r time or just live with it right?
>



Honda has some tips regarding this problem.

Try cleaning the upper belt mount. Even though it looks clean, it's not.

Get some rubbing alcohol and a dishrag. Soak the rag in the alcohol and
feed it between the belt and the upper mount. Work the rag back and
forth on the mount to clean it off.

What also helps is to wash the belt itself with a solution of laundry
detergent and water, then rinse the water off. You'd also do this with a
rag. I think you'll be shocked at the filth that comes off the belt. And
you may be surprised at how well the belt slides after that.

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Tegger

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Tegger wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
> news:471510dd$0$15395$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:4714e4a3$0$20641
>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>
>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:471422f1$0$19650$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I unbuckle and just drop the belt it won't rewind. The belt has
>>>>>> a 90 degree fold between the pillar mount and the buckle just
>>>>>> below the pillar mount jamming the belt from feeding through the
>>>>>> pillar mount.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Put differently, the belt comes up from the rewind mechanism,
>>>>>> through the pillar mount, folds over itself as if pulled toward
>>>>>> the middle of the car then toward the front, creating the 90
>>>>>> degree fold. (If you're as confused as this sounds I'll post a
>>>>>> picture tomorrow.)
>>>>> That would help.
>>>> Pics attached.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The pics don't tell much at all.
>>>
>>> Did you try pulling the belt out ALL the way until it stops, to see
>>> if there are any more twists in the webbing?
>> Yes, there are none. Maybe the retractor just isn't pulling hard
>> enough.
>> That would be r&r time or just live with it right?
>>
>
>
>
> Honda has some tips regarding this problem.
>
> Try cleaning the upper belt mount. Even though it looks clean, it's not.
>
> Get some rubbing alcohol and a dishrag. Soak the rag in the alcohol and
> feed it between the belt and the upper mount. Work the rag back and
> forth on the mount to clean it off.
>
> What also helps is to wash the belt itself with a solution of laundry
> detergent and water, then rinse the water off. You'd also do this with a
> rag. I think you'll be shocked at the filth that comes off the belt. And
> you may be surprised at how well the belt slides after that.
>

Good tips. Thanks Tegger.

Jim

Honda seat belts have a life time warranty. Take the car to a dealer and
if they can't fix the problem with the belt; they will replace the belt.

Power Acura in CA, replaced the lap belt in my '90 Integra, in 2005: no
charge (to me.)

Nasty wrote:

> Here's an oddball question.
>
> My '00 Accord EX's drivers side seatbelt is a PIA. After unbuckling it
> won't rewind because it is folded over at the restraint on the door
> pillar. The retractor mechanism works fine. This has been a minor
> annoyance all along. Today it just jerked my chain.
>
> When I unfold the belt it retracts. It's just an aggravation. Is this
> common? Can it be 'fixed'?
>
> TIA
>
> Jim

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TomP <---roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in news:471A0FCA.6FBB1037
@socal.rr.com:

> Honda seat belts have a life time warranty. Take the car to a dealer and
> if they can't fix the problem with the belt; they will replace the belt.
>
> Power Acura in CA, replaced the lap belt in my '90 Integra, in 2005: no
> charge (to me.)



The warranty only covers functionality. Your '90 'Teg had those awful
"motorized mouse" belts that regularly stopped working.

The OP's belts simply won't retract properly. They still function, so the
warranty likely won't be honored in this case. Plus the warranty only
applies in the United States. Never hurts to check though.


--
Tegger

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Tegger wrote:

> TomP <---roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote in news:471A0FCA.6FBB1037
> @socal.rr.com:
>
>
>>Honda seat belts have a life time warranty. Take the car to a dealer and
>>if they can't fix the problem with the belt; they will replace the belt.
>>
>>Power Acura in CA, replaced the lap belt in my '90 Integra, in 2005: no
>>charge (to me.)
>
>
>
>
> The warranty only covers functionality. Your '90 'Teg had those awful
> "motorized mouse" belts that regularly stopped working.
>
> The OP's belts simply won't retract properly. They still function, so the
> warranty likely won't be honored in this case. Plus the warranty only
> applies in the United States. Never hurts to check though.
>
>


I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
fix at the Honda dealer up the street when I get 'roundtoit...

<G>

JT

Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

> I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
> Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
> fix at the Honda dealer up the street when I get 'roundtoit...
>
> <G>
>
> JT
>
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Before booking an appointment, try the fix prescribed in the owner's
manual: Clean the top loop with mild soapy water to remove the GRUNGE
that accumulates where the belt goes back and forth.

'Curly'

motsco_ wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>> I'm gonna take this at face value... The belts in both, the '82 & '83
>> Civics don't retrac or do so lazily, (like me), so I'm gonna try for a
>> fix at the Honda dealer up the street when I get 'roundtoit...
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> JT
>>
> -----------------------------
>
> Before booking an appointment, try the fix prescribed in the owner's
> manual: Clean the top loop with mild soapy water to remove the GRUNGE
> that accumulates where the belt goes back and forth.
>
> 'Curly'


I'll give that a try Curly... Free is better'n cheap!

<G>

JT