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Hello,

I have been having this minor oil leak which I'm almost 85%
sure is coming from the gasket of the oil filter. I have tried looking
for leaks above the filter but can't see any. I also tried pulling off
the existing filter and checking to see if an old gasket was stuck but
all was clear. I've always been using Honda OEM filters. Does anyone
have any suggestions as to what to try? Should I use some liquid
gasket around the edge of the filter and see if that helps?

Thanks in advance
Nick

Why wouldn't you just screw on a new filter?



nick@nowhere.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been having this minor oil leak which I'm almost 85%
> sure is coming from the gasket of the oil filter. I have tried looking
> for leaks above the filter but can't see any. I also tried pulling off
> the existing filter and checking to see if an old gasket was stuck but
> all was clear. I've always been using Honda OEM filters. Does anyone
> have any suggestions as to what to try? Should I use some liquid
> gasket around the edge of the filter and see if that helps?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Nick

Because the current filter was only a week old.

Nick

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:51:14 -0400, Al <al@spamless.com> wrote:

>Why wouldn't you just screw on a new filter?
>
>
>
>nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been having this minor oil leak which I'm almost 85%
>> sure is coming from the gasket of the oil filter. I have tried looking
>> for leaks above the filter but can't see any. I also tried pulling off
>> the existing filter and checking to see if an old gasket was stuck but
>> all was clear. I've always been using Honda OEM filters. Does anyone
>> have any suggestions as to what to try? Should I use some liquid
>> gasket around the edge of the filter and see if that helps?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Nick

If the installation of the current filter is what started all of this....
replace it and see if the problem continues.

t

nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>Because the current filter was only a week old.
>
>Nick
>
>>Why wouldn't you just screw on a new filter?
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Nick

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This is the 2nd filter that it's happening on. I bought a batch from
the dealer but I don't have this problem on my other Hondas which are
using filters from the same batch. I might try a Puralator just to see
if that helps.



On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:17:05 GMT, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe>
wrote:

>If the installation of the current filter is what started all of this....
>replace it and see if the problem continues.
>
>t
>
>nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>>Because the current filter was only a week old.
>>
>>Nick
>>
>>>Why wouldn't you just screw on a new filter?
>>>
>>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> Nick

nick@nowhere.com wrote:
> This is the 2nd filter that it's happening on. I bought a batch from
> the dealer but I don't have this problem on my other Hondas which are
> using filters from the same batch. I might try a Puralator just to see
> if that helps.

in that case, i agree, it's unlikely to be the filter. you need to
remove and inspect the seal interface - it may be scratched or there may
be piece of contamination like thread from a rag stuck under the seal.
if it's scratched, the only hope i can see is liquid gasket.


>
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:17:05 GMT, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe>
> wrote:
>
>> If the installation of the current filter is what started all of this....
>> replace it and see if the problem continues.
>>
>> t
>>
>> nick@nowhere.com wrote:
>>> Because the current filter was only a week old.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>> Why wouldn't you just screw on a new filter?
>>>>
>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> Nick

<nick@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:0ordf3peqgv0dsvj31ptob3jpi3v78u8am@4ax.com...
> Hello,
>
> I have been having this minor oil leak which I'm almost 85%
> sure is coming from the gasket of the oil filter. I have tried looking
> for leaks above the filter but can't see any. I also tried pulling off
> the existing filter and checking to see if an old gasket was stuck but
> all was clear. I've always been using Honda OEM filters. Does anyone
> have any suggestions as to what to try? Should I use some liquid
> gasket around the edge of the filter and see if that helps?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Nick

I have the same trouble with my 98 Accord, I cannot use the
new type Honda filter. The old type was larger in diameter and
did not bottom on the on the filter casting, only the gasket would.
I use Fram, Puraloter, Pennzoil, and I have no problem,
because they are the same size as the older Honda filters.

Thanks Andy,

I'm going to try that route first and get a new oil filter. If
that fails then I'll try the liquid gasket.

Nick


On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:07:02 GMT, "Andy" <aforn@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>
><nick@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:0ordf3peqgv0dsvj31ptob3jpi3v78u8am@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been having this minor oil leak which I'm almost 85%
>> sure is coming from the gasket of the oil filter. I have tried looking
>> for leaks above the filter but can't see any. I also tried pulling off
>> the existing filter and checking to see if an old gasket was stuck but
>> all was clear. I've always been using Honda OEM filters. Does anyone
>> have any suggestions as to what to try? Should I use some liquid
>> gasket around the edge of the filter and see if that helps?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Nick
>
>I have the same trouble with my 98 Accord, I cannot use the
>new type Honda filter. The old type was larger in diameter and
>did not bottom on the on the filter casting, only the gasket would.
> I use Fram, Puraloter, Pennzoil, and I have no problem,
>because they are the same size as the older Honda filters.
>

nick@nowhere.com wrote in news:tg5nf3tdgesmgg9keq3lb2n2l3uhsv0kf9@4ax.com:

> Thanks Andy,
>
> I'm going to try that route first and get a new oil filter. If
> that fails then I'll try the liquid gasket.



Do NOT use liquid gasket on your oil filter flange!!!!!!! That not only
won't work but may cause grave damage to your engine if you get any of it
in the "clean" side of the filter.

IF in fact the filter is to blame, find out why. Don't band-aid the problem
with something that will certainly cause you more trouble in the future
(and make the pro's laugh at you behind your back when you eventually
surrender to them).

You need to be 100% certain the leak is coming from the filter, not "85%
certain". Because of air turbulence in the engine compartment, oil leak
sources are easily obscured as oil whips around as you drive.

Change the filter with a new dealer filter. Wipe the area well that
surrounds the filter mount boss. Put a /very light/ film of oil on the new
filter gasket. Install to 8-10 ft lbs, but NO TIGHTER. With the car still
raised, start the engine and let it idle until the engine is at operating
temperature (about 10-15 minutes). If the filter is in fact leaking, oil
will squeeze past the gasket and form a droplet at the bottom of the
filter. If no droplet ever forms, then it's not your filter that's leaking.

Your leak is more likely to be coming from the valve cover gasket, the
front balance shaft seal, or a cracked exhaust manifold bracket boss (the
last two are known issues on your car).

The thing to do is to get the block steam cleaned (by your dealer, not
you), then sprayed with aerosol leak detection powder. A short drive should
then pinpoint the source of the leak.

I'm betting it's the valve cover gasket, myself.



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In article <Xns99B85BF20154tegger@207.14.116.130>, tegger@tegger.c0m
says...
> nick@nowhere.com wrote in news:tg5nf3tdgesmgg9keq3lb2n2l3uhsv0kf9@4ax.com:
>
> > Thanks Andy,
> >
> > I'm going to try that route first and get a new oil filter. If
> > that fails then I'll try the liquid gasket.
>
>
>
> Do NOT use liquid gasket on your oil filter flange!!!!!!! That not only
> won't work but may cause grave damage to your engine if you get any of it
> in the "clean" side of the filter.
>
> IF in fact the filter is to blame, find out why. Don't band-aid the problem
> with something that will certainly cause you more trouble in the future
> (and make the pro's laugh at you behind your back when you eventually
> surrender to them).
>
> You need to be 100% certain the leak is coming from the filter, not "85%
> certain". Because of air turbulence in the engine compartment, oil leak
> sources are easily obscured as oil whips around as you drive.
>
> Change the filter with a new dealer filter. Wipe the area well that
> surrounds the filter mount boss. Put a /very light/ film of oil on the new
> filter gasket. Install to 8-10 ft lbs, but NO TIGHTER. With the car still
> raised, start the engine and let it idle until the engine is at operating
> temperature (about 10-15 minutes). If the filter is in fact leaking, oil
> will squeeze past the gasket and form a droplet at the bottom of the
> filter. If no droplet ever forms, then it's not your filter that's leaking.
>
> Your leak is more likely to be coming from the valve cover gasket, the
> front balance shaft seal, or a cracked exhaust manifold bracket boss (the
> last two are known issues on your car).
>
> The thing to do is to get the block steam cleaned (by your dealer, not
> you), then sprayed with aerosol leak detection powder. A short drive should
> then pinpoint the source of the leak.
>
> I'm betting it's the valve cover gasket, myself.

...and I'll put my money on the balancer shaft seal. I had forgetten
until you mentioned it, but there was a kit for the '95 to put a
retaining bracket over the seal because it fell out so easily...

--Gene