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First time here I think...

I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
Googled it, nada.

Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.

ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.

Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
retaining bolts?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

"Nasty" <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46dcc065$0$28798$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> First time here I think...
>
> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
> Googled it, nada.
>
> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>
> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>
> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
> retaining bolts?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jim
>
This happened to me several years ago with my 2000 SE. Turned out to be a
problem with a seat belt latch. I think it was the subject of a recall
notice. The dealer fixed it for free (seat belts are warranted for the life
of the car).

I'd take it to the dealer and get the code read.

Can't help you with the bolts, sorry.

Paul

Paul wrote:
> "Nasty" <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46dcc065$0$28798$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> First time here I think...
>>
>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
>> Googled it, nada.
>>
>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>>
>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>
>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>> retaining bolts?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Jim
>>
> This happened to me several years ago with my 2000 SE. Turned out to be a
> problem with a seat belt latch. I think it was the subject of a recall
> notice. The dealer fixed it for free (seat belts are warranted for the life
> of the car).
>
> I'd take it to the dealer and get the code read.

That's the wrinkle...the car is not throwing a code. An OBD scan comes
back clean.

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> First time here I think...
>
> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
> Googled it, nada.
>
> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.


When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a bad SRS
control module.

Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but there's
nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would call the dealer,
give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in their system (more
complete than what's available to me) which would cover the symptoms you
see.


>
> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.



ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can you dim
and brighten them?


>
> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
> retaining bolts?


You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you not get
them to loosen?



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger wrote:
> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> First time here I think...
>>
>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
>> Googled it, nada.
>>
>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>
>
> When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a bad SRS
> control module.
>
> Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but there's
> nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would call the dealer,
> give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in their system (more
> complete than what's available to me) which would cover the symptoms you
> see.

Will do, thanks.
>
>
>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>
>
>
> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can you dim
> and brighten them?

Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.
>
>
>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>> retaining bolts?
>
>
> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you not get
> them to loosen?

Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
twisting with it.

Thanks again Tegger.

Jim

Nasty wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> First time here I think...
>>>
>>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
>>> Googled it, nada.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>>
>>
>> When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a bad
>> SRS control module.
>>
>> Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but there's
>> nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would call the
>> dealer, give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in their
>> system (more complete than what's available to me) which would cover
>> the symptoms you see.
>
> Will do, thanks.
>>
>>
>>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>
>>
>>
>> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can you
>> dim and brighten them?
>
> Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.
>>
>>
>>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>>> retaining bolts?
>>
>>
>> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you
>> not get them to loosen?
>
> Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
> twisting with it.

you only unbolt the small one at the bottom, then the caliper swings up
hinged by the upper slide. and it loosens no problem.


>
> Thanks again Tegger.
>
> Jim
>
>

jim beam wrote:
> Nasty wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>
>>>> First time here I think...
>>>>
>>>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
>>>> Googled it, nada.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>>>
>>>
>>> When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a
>>> bad SRS control module.
>>>
>>> Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but there's
>>> nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would call the
>>> dealer, give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in their
>>> system (more complete than what's available to me) which would cover
>>> the symptoms you see.
>>
>> Will do, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can
>>> you dim and brighten them?
>>
>> Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>>>> retaining bolts?
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you
>>> not get them to loosen?
>>
>> Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
>> twisting with it.
>
> you only unbolt the small one at the bottom, then the caliper swings up
> hinged by the upper slide. and it loosens no problem.

I'm not doing a brake job, I'm replacing the hubs (bearings). Thanks anyway.

Nasty wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> Nasty wrote:
>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
>>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>>
>>>>> First time here I think...
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's and
>>>>> Googled it, nada.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a
>>>> bad SRS control module.
>>>>
>>>> Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but
>>>> there's nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would call
>>>> the dealer, give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in their
>>>> system (more complete than what's available to me) which would cover
>>>> the symptoms you see.
>>>
>>> Will do, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can
>>>> you dim and brighten them?
>>>
>>> Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>>>>> retaining bolts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you
>>>> not get them to loosen?
>>>
>>> Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
>>> twisting with it.
>>
>> you only unbolt the small one at the bottom, then the caliper swings
>> up hinged by the upper slide. and it loosens no problem.
>
> I'm not doing a brake job, I'm replacing the hubs (bearings). Thanks
> anyway.

then there's no rubber boot...

and why are you doing the bearings? they usually last 300k+ miles on a
honda.

Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in
news:46de29d0$0$15371$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Tegger wrote:
>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

>>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>
>>
>>
>> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can
>> you dim and brighten them?
>
> Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.



It's probably just the bulb. Remove the cluster and replace it.


>>
>>
>>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>>> retaining bolts?
>>
>>
>> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you
>> not get them to loosen?
>
> Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
> twisting with it.


Does this one have a hollow steel sleeve that is completely surrounded by a
rubber boot? A long bolt goes through that hollow sleeve into the caliper
mount bracket?


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam wrote:
> Nasty wrote:
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> Nasty wrote:
>>>> Tegger wrote:
>>>>> Nasty <Nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in news:46dcc065$0$28798
>>>>> $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> First time here I think...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the subject line pretty much tells it all. I checked FAQ's
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Googled it, nada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas? It's the lack of a DTC that puzzles me the most.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When no DTC is stored but the light comes on, this can be due to a
>>>>> bad SRS control module.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your model has several oustanding TSBs on the SRS system, but
>>>>> there's nothing I can find covering a no-DTC condition. I would
>>>>> call the dealer, give him your VIN and ask if they have any TSBs in
>>>>> their system (more complete than what's available to me) which
>>>>> would cover the symptoms you see.
>>>>
>>>> Will do, thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ICIM, a few months ago the ODO back lighting went out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ONLY the odometer backlight? Do the other dash lights work OK? Can
>>>>> you dim and brighten them?
>>>>
>>>> Yup, JUST the odo. All others work fine in all respects.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, while I'm here, is there a trick to removing the rear caliper
>>>>>> retaining bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean the ones holding the caliper to the mount bracket? Can you
>>>>> not get them to loosen?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, those bolts. Mine are reeeeeaaaal tight and the rubber boot is
>>>> twisting with it.
>>>
>>> you only unbolt the small one at the bottom, then the caliper swings
>>> up hinged by the upper slide. and it loosens no problem.
>>
>> I'm not doing a brake job, I'm replacing the hubs (bearings). Thanks
>> anyway.
>
> then there's no rubber boot...

Yes, there are.

>
> and why are you doing the bearings? they usually last 300k+ miles on a
> honda.

Noise, mostly. I replaced the left front last year, it was shot.