Honda Car Forum

On Jul 14, 11:57 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> ACAR wrote:
>
> >> <snip for clarity>
>
> >>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> >>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> >>> profit.
> >> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> >> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> >> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> >> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> > While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> > 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> > unprofitable practice.
>
> but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
> it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
> not the dealer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Honda dealership - is that better?

ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 14, 11:57 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ACAR wrote:
>>> On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> ACAR wrote:
>>>> <snip for clarity>
>>>>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
>>>>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
>>>>> profit.
>>>> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
>>>> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
>>>> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
>>>> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>>> While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
>>> 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
>>> unprofitable practice.
>> but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
>> it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
>> not the dealer.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Honda dealership - is that better?
>

no! it's corporate that takes the loss, not the retailer! retailers
get great margins - how else do you think they pay for that
high-visibility acreage? and sales commissions to the person you meet
when you walk in the door? and hugely expensive advertising that keeps
your local newspapers afloat?

In article <1184162611.182148.210310@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>,
"void.no.spam.com@gmail.com" <void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> wrote:

> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?

Depends on the dealer, but I'm sure they will make it up someway.

I tell the shop what I want, if they find something else I discuss it.
About 6 years ago I was told my auto transmission cooling tubes needed
replacement as they were seeping.
A year later I asked a different dealer to check same and get back to
me; they advised me the clamps just needed tightening.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:47:05 GMT, Just Facts <Jfact@intnet.wrld>
wrote:

>Depends on the dealer, but I'm sure they will make it up someway.
>
>I tell the shop what I want, if they find something else I discuss it.
>About 6 years ago I was told my auto transmission cooling tubes needed
>replacement as they were seeping.
>A year later I asked a different dealer to check same and get back to
>me; they advised me the clamps just needed tightening.

If you loosen them, they might seep.

Just sayin'.

Out of curiosity, how old was the car with how many miles?

J.

On 2007-07-11 10:03:31 -0400, "void.no.spam.com@gmail.com"
<void.no.spam.com@gmail.com> said:

> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?

It means that you will still be overpaying.

-slim

On 2007-07-12 07:55:08 -0400, Chief_Billy@hotmail.com said:

> On Jul 11, 10:03 am, "void.no.spam....@gmail.com"
> <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
>> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
>> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?
>
> At MY dealership, I get the 10% discount off the final, before-tax
> price.

Which means you still paid 30% more than you had to.

-slim

On 2007-07-13 10:50:16 -0400, ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> said:

> On Jul 11, 10:03 am, "void.no.spam....@gmail.com"
> <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
>> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
>> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?
>
> My Toyota dealer has their std maintenance (15K, 30K, 60K...) prices
> clearly posted behind the service desk. My Honda dealer offers a 1-
> page list with the same info. A 10% discount means 10% off the posted
> prices. They also will do 10% off any additional work they might
> suggest; and they always suggest something additional. Nearly any work
> they suggest will be included in their OEM shop guides that also list
> the labor time for the work. They charge by those guidelines, that
> provide PLENTY of time to do the work (and go for lunch and/or train
> another tech. in the procedure). So, no, they don't jack up the
> already excessive labor prices.
>
> Gotta luv 'em.

Oh yeah! <rolls eyes>

My Stealer changed my brake pads twice in the first 30K $250 each time.

Because they "had to".

--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying the cross." - Sinclair Lewis