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Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
should come as no suprise. Details are...
03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when upshifting
from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for flush,
sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that there
was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the recall
was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point. It
was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?

Question #1
Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?

Question #2
Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the transmission
problems they are known for.

The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they put
in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I have
less tact than she.

Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership and
they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joel

"Just Me" <Just Me @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:yEcei.10014$M%4.236@trndny08...
> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
> should come as no suprise. Details are...
> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
upshifting
> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for flush,
> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that there
> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
recall
> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
It
> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>
> Question #1
> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?

Why not? They get paid the same either way.

>
> Question #2
> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the transmission
> problems they are known for.
>
> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they put
> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them,
> as I have less tact than she.

This sounds like fraud. The recall you are talking about wouldn't have
anything to do with defective solenoids, would it? I personally am not
familiar with the recall, but this sounds suspicious.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

>
> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager
> for Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the
> dealership and they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
>



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Mine, 2003 Accord EXV6, went out at about 72,000 mi. It (the transmission)
began to free rev up another 1500 rpms or so before upshifting to either the
2nd or 3rd gear. I don't remember which. My dealer put in a new
transmission and only charged me the freight (I think $200). They said if I
paid the freight it would carry an additional 3 year warranty. Anyway, I
don't know that they would have done this normally. When my radio/climate
control display went out they were going to charge me $1,200 for a new one
until I called Honda Corp. and complained. I suspect my dealer knew I would
pick up the phone again.


--
Brad


"Just Me" <Just Me @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:yEcei.10014$M%4.236@trndny08...
> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
> should come as no suprise. Details are...
> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
> upshifting
> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for flush,
> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that there
> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
> recall
> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
> It
> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>
> Question #1
> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>
> Question #2
> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the transmission
> problems they are known for.
>
> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they put
> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I
> have
> less tact than she.
>
> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership
> and
> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
>

Just Me wrote:
> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
> should come as no suprise. Details are...
> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when upshifting
> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for flush,
> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that there
> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the recall
> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point. It
> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>
> Question #1
> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>
> Question #2
> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the transmission
> problems they are known for.
>
> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they put
> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I have
> less tact than she.
>
> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership and
> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Joel

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As an experiment, make sure the coolant reservoir is full to the =MAX=
mark. Check it again in two days and top up as needed. If it 'uses'
coolant, there was AIR in the cooling system and it means somebody
didn't follow the part in the owner's manual about filling the system
any time the cooling system has been worked on.

It can radically affect your shift points.

'Curly'

Coolant? Are you F-ing me? What the hell does antifreeze have to do with
shift points. It is not a liquid cooled trans, unless you include the trans
cooler, which cools the trans fluid. That sounds like complete and utter
bs! anyone else ever heard of this?

Incidentally, they called my girlfriend back and said Honda is worried about
their image and will be replacing the trans for free. I will believe it
when I see it.

Thanks, Joel
"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:137j1c5a8egdu2e@corp.supernews.com...
> Just Me wrote:
>> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
>> should come as no suprise. Details are...
>> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
>> upshifting
>> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
>> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for
>> flush,
>> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that
>> there
>> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
>> recall
>> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
>> It
>> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
>> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>>
>> Question #1
>> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>>
>> Question #2
>> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the
>> transmission
>> problems they are known for.
>>
>> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they
>> put
>> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I
>> have
>> less tact than she.
>>
>> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
>> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership
>> and
>> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joel
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
> As an experiment, make sure the coolant reservoir is full to the =MAX=
> mark. Check it again in two days and top up as needed. If it 'uses'
> coolant, there was AIR in the cooling system and it means somebody didn't
> follow the part in the owner's manual about filling the system any time
> the cooling system has been worked on.
>
> It can radically affect your shift points.
>
> 'Curly'

"Just Me" <Just Me @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fuvei.10686$015.1189@trndny05...
> Coolant? Are you F-ing me? What the hell does antifreeze have to do with
> shift points. It is not a liquid cooled trans, unless you include the
> trans cooler, which cools the trans fluid. That sounds like complete and
> utter bs! anyone else ever heard of this?
>
> Incidentally, they called my girlfriend back and said Honda is worried
> about their image and will be replacing the trans for free. I will
> believe it when I see it.
Believe it. Honda is a reputable company.

>
> Thanks, Joel
> "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:137j1c5a8egdu2e@corp.supernews.com...
>> Just Me wrote:
>>> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
>>> should come as no suprise. Details are...
>>> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
>>> upshifting
>>> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
>>> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for
>>> flush,
>>> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that
>>> there
>>> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
>>> recall
>>> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
>>> It
>>> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
>>> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>>>
>>> Question #1
>>> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>>>
>>> Question #2
>>> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the
>>> transmission
>>> problems they are known for.
>>>
>>> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they
>>> put
>>> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I
>>> have
>>> less tact than she.
>>>
>>> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
>>> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership
>>> and
>>> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joel
>>
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> As an experiment, make sure the coolant reservoir is full to the =MAX=
>> mark. Check it again in two days and top up as needed. If it 'uses'
>> coolant, there was AIR in the cooling system and it means somebody didn't
>> follow the part in the owner's manual about filling the system any time
>> the cooling system has been worked on.
>>
>> It can radically affect your shift points.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>

On 6/21/07 8:58 AM, in article fuvei.10686$015.1189@trndny05, "Just Me"
<Just Me @gmail.com> wrote:

> Coolant? Are you F-ing me? What the hell does antifreeze have to do with
> shift points. It is not a liquid cooled trans, unless you include the trans
> cooler, which cools the trans fluid. That sounds like complete and utter
> bs! anyone else ever heard of this?
>

Hondas go nuts if they get air in the cooling system. The sensors don't
read right, the computer decides everything is still cold and directs the
transmission to shift accordingly.

> Incidentally, they called my girlfriend back and said Honda is worried about
> their image and will be replacing the trans for free. I will believe it
> when I see it.
>
> Thanks, Joel
> "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:137j1c5a8egdu2e@corp.supernews.com...
>> Just Me wrote:
>>> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
>>> should come as no suprise. Details are...
>>> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
>>> upshifting
>>> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
>>> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for
>>> flush,
>>> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that
>>> there
>>> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
>>> recall
>>> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
>>> It
>>> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
>>> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>>>
>>> Question #1
>>> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>>>
>>> Question #2
>>> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the
>>> transmission
>>> problems they are known for.
>>>
>>> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they
>>> put
>>> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I
>>> have
>>> less tact than she.
>>>
>>> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
>>> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership
>>> and
>>> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joel
>>
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> As an experiment, make sure the coolant reservoir is full to the =MAX=
>> mark. Check it again in two days and top up as needed. If it 'uses'
>> coolant, there was AIR in the cooling system and it means somebody didn't
>> follow the part in the owner's manual about filling the system any time
>> the cooling system has been worked on.
>>
>> It can radically affect your shift points.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>

Just Me wrote:
> Coolant? Are you F-ing me?

not unless you're naked and have your ass higher than your head.

> What the hell does antifreeze have to do with
> shift points.

coolant temp tells the ecu which shift pattern to use.

> It is not a liquid cooled trans, unless you include the trans
> cooler, which cools the trans fluid.

that makes it liquid cooled.

> That sounds like complete and utter
> bs! anyone else ever heard of this?

yes, it's pretty much the norm on any modern electronically controlled
automatic. you need to learn more.

>
> Incidentally, they called my girlfriend back and said Honda is worried about
> their image and will be replacing the trans for free. I will believe it
> when I see it.
>
> Thanks, Joel
> "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:137j1c5a8egdu2e@corp.supernews.com...
>> Just Me wrote:
>>> Girlfriend is having trouble with her transmission. Reading online, it
>>> should come as no suprise. Details are...
>>> 03 ex coupe v6, auto. 86000 miles. Transmission hesitates when
>>> upshifting
>>> from 2nd to 3rd. Took it in, they said needed a flush, and needed to
>>> replace solenoids on the trans. Now $103 for diagnostics, $360 for
>>> flush,
>>> sols and labor, and it still does the same thing. Found online that
>>> there
>>> was a recall. Questioned the dealership about this and they said the
>>> recall
>>> was done in April 2003. The car wasn't even owned by her at that point.
>>> It
>>> was still on a lot, brand new, as she was the first owner. Is this even
>>> possible. I thought the recall came out in 2004?
>>>
>>> Question #1
>>> Do dealers ever do recall work on cars before they sell them?
>>>
>>> Question #2
>>> Anyone else had this problem? It seems like the start of the
>>> transmission
>>> problems they are known for.
>>>
>>> The dealership, after being told it wasn't fixed, said that maybe they
>>> put
>>> in defective solenoids. THEY ARE LUCKY she was talking with them, as I
>>> have
>>> less tact than she.
>>>
>>> Also, anyone know the number for Honda's regional service manager for
>>> Sheboygan, Wisconsin area? Lakeland Honda is the name of the dealership
>>> and
>>> they are a sorry excuse for a dealership.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joel
>> -------------------------------------------
>>
>> As an experiment, make sure the coolant reservoir is full to the =MAX=
>> mark. Check it again in two days and top up as needed. If it 'uses'
>> coolant, there was AIR in the cooling system and it means somebody didn't
>> follow the part in the owner's manual about filling the system any time
>> the cooling system has been worked on.
>>
>> It can radically affect your shift points.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>