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Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at
Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same
requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14
for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott

In article
<a683720542246d24aec6a1426bcf1904@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
"zonie" <sjemoomaw@nospam> wrote:

> Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at
> Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same
> requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14
> for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott

If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications.

So much of this stuff is marketing.....

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article
> <a683720542246d24aec6a1426bcf1904@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
> "zonie" <sjemoomaw@nospam> wrote:
>
>> Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at
>> Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same
>> requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14
>> for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott
>
> If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications.
>
> So much of this stuff is marketing.....
>
except that different product doesn't have the same additive package.
api spec motorcraft made my seals leak like sieves. castrol stopped
them leaking again.

In article <WOadnYDgbbqVMejbnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

> > If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications.
> >
> > So much of this stuff is marketing.....
> >
> except that different product doesn't have the same additive package.

That's correct.

But that's not an "except". If it meets API specifications, it meets
API specifications.

The engine manufacturer specifies what oil to use. If they specify
Mobil 1, then use it. If they specify an oil that meets a certain API
specification, then use that.

Using *more* than that is the result of the marketing people getting
into your head and inserting fear, uncertainty, and doubt--in order to
get you to spend more money for their product.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <WOadnYDgbbqVMejbnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>>> If it meets API specifications, it meets API specifications.
>>>
>>> So much of this stuff is marketing.....
>>>
>> except that different product doesn't have the same additive package.
>
> That's correct.
>
> But that's not an "except". If it meets API specifications, it meets
> API specifications.

both the motorcraft and castrol oils i used were api oils - there was no
way of telling based on the "information" [not] available which would be
the better oil. indeed, according to the spark analysis crowd over at
"bob is the oil guy", the m/c was a "good quality" oil. experience
showed a very different story.


>
> The engine manufacturer specifies what oil to use. If they specify
> Mobil 1, then use it. If they specify an oil that meets a certain API
> specification, then use that.
>
> Using *more* than that is the result of the marketing people getting
> into your head and inserting fear, uncertainty, and doubt--in order to
> get you to spend more money for their product.
>

reality is, sometimes it's worth paying for branding. how much it's
worth paying is another question, but motorcraft vs castrol, with only a
few cents difference per quart? pay the extra and get the better
castrol additive package!

otoh, would i pay almost double for castrol "high mileage" brand? no.
msds info, limited though it may be, reveals no difference between them,
so i don't think it's worth the premium.

To answer your actual question, here in Canada Walmart sells a brand called
Tech 2000. I assume it must be similar to Supertech.

The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier.
Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would
have to think that at least a percentage of this product comes from reclaimed
motor oil.

My reasoning? Where do you think your used motor oil ends up when you take
it to the depot? It goes to Safety Kleen...

Is there anything wrong with this oil? Since it passes API standards, I
guess not. But why would you want to take a chance to save such a small
amount of cash on such an expensive piece of machinery?

t

zonie wrote:
>Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at
>Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same
>requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14
>for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott

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In article <73e168086a858@uwe>, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe>
wrote:

> The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier.
> Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would
> have to think that at least a percentage of this product comes from reclaimed
> motor oil.
>
> My reasoning? Where do you think your used motor oil ends up when you take
> it to the depot? It goes to Safety Kleen...
>
> Is there anything wrong with this oil? Since it passes API standards, I
> guess not. But why would you want to take a chance to save such a small
> amount of cash on such an expensive piece of machinery?

That's one way to look at it.

The other way to look at it is this: the base petroleum is never used
up. Therefore, if the base petroleum is reclaimed and put back through
the original manufacturing cycle to add the additives, who cares?

On Jun 18, 10:01 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <73e168086a858@uwe>, "loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe>
> wrote:
>
> > The MSDS for the Tech 2000 indicates that Safety Kleen is the supplier.
> > Based on that info, and my experience with that company in my job, I would
> > have to think that at least a percentage of this product comes from reclaimed
> > motor oil.
>
> The other way to look at it is this: the base petroleum is never used
> up. Therefore, if the base petroleum is reclaimed and put back through
> the original manufacturing cycle to add the additives, who cares?

Absolutely correct . The used motor oil is RE-REFINED TO API standards
and then additives are introduced .This should be a much better oil
than the opriginal but technically speaking ? ther is absolutely no
difference.

The bottom line ? OIL NEVER WEARS OUT ! But the aditives do~!!!!

I used Tech 2000 for many years, years ago when I couldnt afford "name
brand " oils and I never had a problem with my engines.

The secret to using any oil ,and I mean ANY~! is fequent oil changes;
(severe service) although Mobil 1 is good for many more miles than any
dino oil and their extreme service oil is GAURANTEED FOR 15,000 MILES.

Yes I use mobil 1 now ,purchased at Walmart, Niagara falls NY.

Much cheaper than the same oil in Canada.

On Jun 17, 4:28 pm, "zonie" <sjemoomaw@nospam> wrote:
> Just wondering if anybody knows for sure who makes the Super-tech oil at
> Wal-mart? The price is tempting and it says it meets the same
> requirements. Still not sure I would trust it in my car. But less than $14
> for 5 qts synthetic is tempting. Scott

You can use it and save a few bucks, but the specific additive package
can make a difference. Sludge (Quaker State of old days) build up,
for instance. The name does mean something. Maybe not on the first
oil change, but on the 10th or 20th. And, despite API ratings, one
oil may agree with your engine, and another may not. (Off topic --
Weirdest thing I've seen yet on bobistheoilguy.com is terrible oil
analyses using synthetic in an Infiniti G35. That engine hates
synthetic, the wear numbers are horrible. Far better off with dino.)

Re-refining? Used to be some crap called "Ring-Seal" that was made
this way. It was dirt-cheap because it didn't seal rings, it just
blew past them so needed no quality. I don't think any major brand,
SuperTech included, is re-refined. Old oil is generally burned up as
a fuel source to generate electricity.

In article <1182301106.126448.106070@n60g2000hse.googlegroups .com>,
jmattis@attglobal.net wrote:

> Re-refining? Used to be some crap called "Ring-Seal" that was made
> this way. It was dirt-cheap because it didn't seal rings, it just
> blew past them so needed no quality.

I had a 79 Civic like that. Self-changing oil. When you did a hard
right and the oil light flickered, you added more.

You couldn't kill that engine.