Honda Car Forum

I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out a
few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
The guy asked a serious question and wanted to know about other ppl's
opinion about the belt if you are so bent upon calling him a bastard why
dont you foot his bill for the belt change :P

W

"Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
news:f1amb4$pok$2@aioe.org...
> RVS wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My Honda civic sedan is now 7 years old, but has only 75000 miles on
>> it. The manual says i need to change the timing belt at 105000/7 years
>> (whichever is earlier). I still have 30,000 miles to go, however the
>> number of years are done.
>>
>> Should i be replacing the timing belt even though i am 30,000 miles
>> short, or should i wait for a few more miles.
>
> Replace it. It is 105,000 or 7 years, whichever comes first.
>

In article <01c78dec$94e54480$6501a8c0@tomc.hsd1.pa.comcast.n et.>,
"TomC" <ooo@ooo.com> wrote:

> > And the Honda engineers who said "90K miles or 6 years, whichever comes
> > first" know EVEN MORE about the situation than your grizzled old tech
> > does.
> >
> >
> > > I'm all the way up to 58k miles now, and the car is
> > > approaching 13 years old. Based on time, I should have
> > > changed the belt twice by now.
> >
> > You rolled the dice and won. Does that mean you will tell everyone that
> > what you did is a perfect system, not a roll of the dice?
> >
I have two friends who had the timing belt suddenly fail at 130 and 140
Kkms pm the Chrysler 2.5L engine of the 80s.
Fortunately this engine was non interference so only the belt had to be
replaced.
Another friend with an earlier Civic was not so lucky when his timing
belt broke. His interference engine was destroyed.

TomC wrote:
> Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in article
> <elmop-C75B5C.14282603052007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>...
>> In article <zpo_h.108681$cJ1.57203@newsfe13.lga>,
>> Peabody <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now of course, he doesn't guarantee that advice, but he and
>>> his guys have worked on Honda products for decades, and know
>>> more than I do.
>> And the Honda engineers who said "90K miles or 6 years, whichever comes
>> first" know EVEN MORE about the situation than your grizzled old tech
>> does.
>>
>>
>>> I'm all the way up to 58k miles now, and the car is
>>> approaching 13 years old. Based on time, I should have
>>> changed the belt twice by now.
>> You rolled the dice and won. Does that mean you will tell everyone that
>> what you did is a perfect system, not a roll of the dice?
>>
>>
>>
>>> I do, however, agree with you that the manual is based on an
>>> assumed 15k miles per year, and the column the item appears
>>> in does NOT tell you whether mileage or time is the real
>>> determining factor,
>> Yes, it does. He was perfectly clear: his manual says 105K miles or 7
>> years, whichever comes first. It says that EXPLICITLY.
>>
>> He can listen to the Honda engineers, or he can listen to you tell third
>> party stories from some guy who claims that he knows what he's talking
>> about (he probably just didn't want to take on the work, frankly).
>>
>>
>>
>>> The problem is, I don't know how you
>>> find the real answer.
>> Well, one could start with READING.
>>
>> But apparently actual *comprehension* is beyond so many people in the
>> world today, as evidenced by you and RVS.
>>
>> Either that, or the gene that makes you a cheap bastard is the same gene
>> that leaves you unable to comprehend plain language.
>>
>>
>
> Uh..... what kind of engineer would design an engine that would
> self-destruct if a rubber belt broke?
>
/not/ the same "engineer" that is happy selling inefficient unreliable
garbage that they can't be bothered to make work properly and is made in
detroit.

"interference" is the result of aggressive valve timing and high
compression - which both lead to high output and high fuel efficiency.
if you want to have a low compression low revving motor that is not fuel
efficient, you too can have a non-interference engine.

w wrote:

> I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out
> a few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
> The guy asked a serious question and wanted to know about other ppl's
> opinion about the belt if you are so bent upon calling him a bastard why
> dont you foot his bill for the belt change :P
>

If he can't afford the maintenance, he should take the bus. A car is a
luxury.

And if he decides to be a cheapskate and skip the maintenance, he shouldn't
bother to come crying here when his timing belt snaps and his engine is
turned into a big ****ing paperweight.

Since you are condoning his miserly ways, perhaps you'll be willing to foot
the bill for a new motor for him...

In article <f1em87$d8k$1@news.Stanford.EDU>, "w" <wqadeer@stanford.edu>
wrote:

> I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out a
> few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...

He's at best penny-wise and pound-foolish. He wants not to spend a few
hundred dollars today so that he may end up spending a few thousand
dollars down the road.

As the Car Talk guys say, it's the cheapest man who spends the most.

On May 4, 10:57 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <f1em87$d8...@news.Stanford.EDU>, "w" <wqad...@stanford.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out a
> > few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
>
> He's at best penny-wise and pound-foolish. He wants not to spend a few
> hundred dollars today so that he may end up spending a few thousand
> dollars down the road.
>
> As the Car Talk guys say, it's the cheapest man who spends the most.

Whether i spend money or not ... whether i take a bus or not is my
decision, If people always followed the manual or went to the dealer
for everything, they would not have to come to this forum and listen
to some of the asses on this site. It my car to destroy, may it be a
few hundred now or a few thousand later. I came here to see if
somebody had any contrary experiences. To those who gave me an honest
opinion (most of who advised me to go get the work done now), i
appreciate the advice and will follow it. To those who don't have a
life and have about a dozen replies to a question from a guy they
consider not worth answering, get a life. As for the marital advice
from groups here, may be Elmo's wife can say how thats working out.

Have had enough of these useless forums.

"RVS" <rahulvsamant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178293924.455143.257710@y5g2000hsa.googlegro ups.com...
> On May 4, 10:57 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> > In article <f1em87$d8...@news.Stanford.EDU>, "w" <wqad...@stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw
out a
> > > few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
> >
> > He's at best penny-wise and pound-foolish. He wants not to spend a few
> > hundred dollars today so that he may end up spending a few thousand
> > dollars down the road.
> >
> > As the Car Talk guys say, it's the cheapest man who spends the most.
>
> Whether i spend money or not ... whether i take a bus or not is my
> decision, If people always followed the manual or went to the dealer
> for everything, they would not have to come to this forum and listen
> to some of the asses on this site. It my car to destroy, may it be a
> few hundred now or a few thousand later. I came here to see if
> somebody had any contrary experiences. To those who gave me an honest
> opinion (most of who advised me to go get the work done now), i
> appreciate the advice and will follow it. To those who don't have a
> life and have about a dozen replies to a question from a guy they
> consider not worth answering, get a life. As for the marital advice
> from groups here, may be Elmo's wife can say how thats working out.
>
> Have had enough of these useless forums.
>
Y tú mamá también.

Saludos,

Earle

In article <1178293924.455143.257710@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups. com>,
RVS <rahulvsamant@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 4, 10:57 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> > In article <f1em87$d8...@news.Stanford.EDU>, "w" <wqad...@stanford.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out
> > > a
> > > few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
> >
> > He's at best penny-wise and pound-foolish. He wants not to spend a few
> > hundred dollars today so that he may end up spending a few thousand
> > dollars down the road.
> >
> > As the Car Talk guys say, it's the cheapest man who spends the most.
>
> Whether i spend money or not ... whether i take a bus or not is my
> decision, If people always followed the manual or went to the dealer
> for everything, they would not have to come to this forum and listen
> to some of the asses on this site. It my car to destroy, may it be a
> few hundred now or a few thousand later. I came here to see if
> somebody had any contrary experiences. To those who gave me an honest
> opinion (most of who advised me to go get the work done now), i
> appreciate the advice and will follow it. To those who don't have a
> life and have about a dozen replies to a question from a guy they
> consider not worth answering, get a life. As for the marital advice
> from groups here, may be Elmo's wife can say how thats working out.
>
> Have had enough of these useless forums.

That's fine. We've had enough of cheap bastards.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1178293924.455143.257710@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups. com>,
> RVS <rahulvsamant@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On May 4, 10:57 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <f1em87$d8...@news.Stanford.EDU>, "w" <wqad...@stanford.edu>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I seriously dont get it! If someone doesnt have enough money to throw out
>>>>a
>>>>few hundred bucks why would you call him a bastard or a miser...
>>>
>>>He's at best penny-wise and pound-foolish. He wants not to spend a few
>>>hundred dollars today so that he may end up spending a few thousand
>>>dollars down the road.
>>>
>>>As the Car Talk guys say, it's the cheapest man who spends the most.
>>
>>Whether i spend money or not ... whether i take a bus or not is my
>>decision, If people always followed the manual or went to the dealer
>>for everything, they would not have to come to this forum and listen
>>to some of the asses on this site. It my car to destroy, may it be a
>>few hundred now or a few thousand later. I came here to see if
>>somebody had any contrary experiences. To those who gave me an honest
>>opinion (most of who advised me to go get the work done now), i
>>appreciate the advice and will follow it. To those who don't have a
>>life and have about a dozen replies to a question from a guy they
>>consider not worth answering, get a life. As for the marital advice
>>from groups here, may be Elmo's wife can say how thats working out.
>>
>>Have had enough of these useless forums.
>
>
> That's fine. We've had enough of cheap bastards.
>


Wait a minnit thar' Elmo... I'm a cheap bas... er, frugal, grumpy and..

Why else would I be driving low priced '82 & '83 Civics!?

<G>

JT

In article <TdJ_h.102925$VU4.32981@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:

> > That's fine. We've had enough of cheap bastards.
> >
>
>
> Wait a minnit thar' Elmo... I'm a cheap bas... er, frugal, grumpy and..
>
> Why else would I be driving low priced '82 & '83 Civics!?

Yer not a cheap bastard. A cheap bastard knows the price of everything
and the value of nothing.

You, sir, plainly understand value.