Honda Car Forum

On Thu, 03 May 2007 16:06:49 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
<Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:

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>Gordon McGrew wrote:
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>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:53:48 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
>> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
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>>>erdos wrote:
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>>>>On May 1, 12:47 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
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>>>>>In article <1178044227.104099.65...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
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>>>>>erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>>Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
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>>>>>>The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.
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>>>>>Yeah. So?
>>>>>
>>>>>And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
>>>>>point?
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>>>>Who is Molly Ivins?
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>>>A dead liberal...
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>> ...from Texas who warned us about W.
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>...and the alternative was???
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>JT

(Well it couldn't have been any worse so it must have been ...)

better.

In article <1177875258.246360.288150@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups .com>,
erdos <account@cygen.com> wrote:

> http://research.cars.com/go/crp/rese...L35ZRLAYII5JXK
> Y?makeid=48&mode=&revid=50179&year=2007&acode=&mod elid=447&revlogtype=21&crpPa
> ge=summary.jsp&myid=&section=reviews&mode=&aff=nat ional

Yes at the auto show VW told me the Jetta will have a diesel for 2008.
Looking at MPG figures in the UK & Europe I estimate a 50% increase in
MPG over the equivalent gas engine.

Now can they solve their reliability problems?

In article <1177947867.853790.129980@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups .com>,
erdos <account@cygen.com> wrote:

> When is a good time to buy a 2008? I'll be a first time buyer as well.

Just don't buy the first off if it is a new design.
Wait 1 yr for body changes and 2/3 yrs for drive train changes.

In article <15xtcjs24489$.dlg@hightech.misfit>,
High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> erdos wrote:
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> > Using the numbers I have above, the monthly will be around $430. I'll
> > probably lease since I don't want to keep the car very long. I'm
> > still considering an '08 Jetta TDi. Leasing will be $2900 dn and $199/
> > mo for 36 months through VW. That's a better deal for me. I imagine
> > Honda will have a great lease offer as well.
>
> Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.

I'll agree.
Also Mercedes, according to CR the most unreliable car.

In article <1178044227.104099.65460@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
erdos <account@cygen.com> wrote:

> > Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>
> The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta. Most of
> the complaints come from the gasoline Jetta. You don't hear much from
> TDi owners. Check the rating:
> http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/je...rreview.1.html.
> Same as a Honda Civic EX of the same year. You'll also notice a
> number of gasoline Jetta owners are mixed in that rating, weighing
> down the overall, and it still gets 9.2.

I know a chap who works at a VW service desk and his wife at Toyota.
They compared notes and he bought a Toyota.
His VW boss was quite upset. He said I just couldn't face the problems
our customers do.

A few months ago VW ran ads saying their quality was now much better.
They admitted they had quality problems, now to see if they really are
better.

In article <1hib3jsmw26vh.dlg@hightech.misfit>,
High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> The biggest problem with VW's and modern German cars in general is shoddy
> electrical systems. A friend of mine spent close to $2000 to fix a bunch of
> electrical issues in his 2000 Golf a couple years ago.

Nothing new there.
I had a 1961 VW beetle. The under dash clip electrical connectors were
continually coming lose, losing power to various circuits.
I fixed it by soldering all under dash connectors. <