Honda Car Forum

erdos wrote:

> Using the numbers I have above, the monthly will be around $430. I'll
> probably lease since I don't want to keep the car very long. I'm
> still considering an '08 Jetta TDi. Leasing will be $2900 dn and $199/
> mo for 36 months through VW. That's a better deal for me. I imagine
> Honda will have a great lease offer as well.

Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.

On Apr 30, 11:44 am, erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
> Let's say I go with a 2008 Civic EX with Si trimmings (EX b/c I want
> auto) and it cost $23,500.

A 2007 Accord EX auto is less expensive right now. In a couple of
months it'll be cheaper still (new Accord due in the fall). Higher
resale value and lower insurance make the Accord a better buy than the
Civic, IMHO. (Fuel economy isn't the only measure used to calculate
total cost of ownership.)

Civic Si: if you don't know what a LSD is, you're wasting your money
buying the Si. However, your insurance agent will be happy to
accommodate you. Yeah, the Corolla isn't pretty. Yet it outsells the
Civic. I put a set of decent tires on a '99 Corolla and it was a great
econo-car. Still, when Accord LXs start to go for $18.5K in June a
$17K Corolla just doesn't cut it.

YMMV

> Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.

The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta. Most of
the complaints come from the gasoline Jetta. You don't hear much from
TDi owners. Check the rating: http://www.edmunds.com/volkswagen/je...rreview.1.html.
Same as a Honda Civic EX of the same year. You'll also notice a
number of gasoline Jetta owners are mixed in that rating, weighing
down the overall, and it still gets 9.2.

In article <1178044227.104099.65460@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
erdos <account@cygen.com> wrote:

> > Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>
> The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.

Yeah. So?

And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
point?

On May 1, 12:47 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <1178044227.104099.65...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
>
> erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
> > > Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>
> > The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.
>
> Yeah. So?
>
> And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
> point?

Who is Molly Ivins?

erdos wrote:

> On May 1, 12:47 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <1178044227.104099.65...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
>>
>> erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>>
>>>The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.
>>
>>Yeah. So?
>>
>>And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
>>point?
>
>
> Who is Molly Ivins?
>


A dead liberal...

JT

erdos wrote:

> The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta. Most of
> the complaints come from the gasoline Jetta. You don't hear much from
> TDi owners.

The biggest problem with VW's and modern German cars in general is shoddy
electrical systems. A friend of mine spent close to $2000 to fix a bunch of
electrical issues in his 2000 Golf a couple years ago.

erdos <account@cygen.com> wrote:
> I like my '92 model Civic EX but it's way to old (166k miles). I just
> replaced the distributor and have a feeling other things will
> "suddenly" start going out at the red light or where ever else is most
> inconvenient. I was planning to get a brand new Civic but after
> looking at the newer models, Honda finally degraded their look to
> aweful. Basically it's a Ford Focus now. Then again, a lot of people
> drive a Focus. I haven't even seen any of the new Civics on the
> road. I'm probably confusing them with a Focus. Does anyone else
> feel the same way?

Yep, so very many cars are jellybean (term I use)/egg (term wife uses)
cars nowadays. Unfortunately style has been sacrificed for aerodynamics
in a lot of cases. The new Civic does look like a lot of those cars and
that's not a good thing.

> Has anyone bought one of these yet? Why?

Yep. Because I didn't want to spend more than $20K, wanted a reliable car
(and Kia, Ford, Chevy, Hyundai, and VW weren't as reliable as Hondas,
according to Consumer Reports), and wanted a 2-door (and the Toyota Camry
Solara was over my price range). My 94 Saturn SC1 has better styling than
my new Civic, but it's still a decent car, just kinda bland... I got it
in Galaxy Grey, which seems to help it not be as ugly as the other colors.

brian
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On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:53:48 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
<Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:

>
>
>erdos wrote:
>
>> On May 1, 12:47 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <1178044227.104099.65...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
>>>
>>> erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>>>
>>>>The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.
>>>
>>>Yeah. So?
>>>
>>>And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
>>>point?
>>
>>
>> Who is Molly Ivins?
>>
>
>
>A dead liberal...
>

....from Texas who warned us about W.

Gordon McGrew wrote:

> On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:53:48 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
> <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>erdos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On May 1, 12:47 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <e...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <1178044227.104099.65...@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups. com>,
>>>>
>>>>erdos <acco...@cygen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Some advice: Avoid the Jetta. VW's are unreliable junk.
>>>>
>>>>>The Jetta TDi has been more reliable than the gasoline Jetta.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah. So?
>>>>
>>>>And Rosie O'Donnell is better looking than Molly Ivins. What's your
>>>>point?
>>>
>>>
>>>Who is Molly Ivins?
>>>
>>
>>
>>A dead liberal...
>>
>
>
> ...from Texas who warned us about W.
>



....and the alternative was???

JT