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In article <evWdnfsaXoPCGrbbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:

> You must have read the same article I did, but failed to notice the
> Hummer was still worse.

Which Hummer?
The real one or the fakes? <

In article <cCuWh.1107$Wa.210@trnddc08>, "Go Mavs" <GoMavz@GoMavz.com>
wrote:
"Some O" <SO@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:SO-57E67B.13214821042007@news.telus.net...

> > I sat in the Yaris at the auto show and was amazed at the room for me
> > both behind the steering wheel and in the rear seat behind.
>
> The room is fine but if youre 6'2 like me then you need one of two things to
> happen. Either the stearing wheel needs to be extended 2 inches.. or the
> seats dropped downa couple inches
I had that problem of too far away from the steering wheel in the
Corolla, but not in the Yaris.

Spam away wrote:
> In article <evWdnfsaXoPCGrbbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
>
>
>>You must have read the same article I did, but failed to notice the
>>Hummer was still worse.
>
>
> Which Hummer?
> The real one or the fakes? <

Ptrobably one of the "fakes" - that is if by "real" you mean the ones
the military uses.

The article I read didn't specify which Hummer.

Then again, since reading that article, I've seen other sources which
state a Hummer has a life-expectancy of 300,000 miles, but the Prius
only has a life expectancy of 100,000 miles, which would tip the scale
back in favor of the Hummer.

Then again, it's all based on stuff that could easily be wrong - After
all, I read it on the internet.

Spam away wrote:
> In article <evWdnfgaXoNlG7bbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
>
>
>>Mining all that nickel and shipping it all over the world for processing
>>and manufacture is a huge hit to the environment.
>
> Nickel is also used in stainless steel.
> See exhaust systems, trash cans, kitchen utensils, etc.

In what quantities?

Does it have to be shipped across the ocean and back to be turned into
the final product?

"Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote in message
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> Spam away wrote:
>> In article <evWdnfgaXoNlG7bbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mining all that nickel and shipping it all over the world for processing
>>>and manufacture is a huge hit to the environment.
>>
>> Nickel is also used in stainless steel.
>> See exhaust systems, trash cans, kitchen utensils, etc.
>
> In what quantities?
>
> Does it have to be shipped across the ocean and back to be turned into the
> final product?

Google up Sudbury Ontario and INCO smelting for close to home nickle
mining.........

In alt.autos.ford Fred G. Mackey <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
> Then again, since reading that article, I've seen other sources which
> state a Hummer has a life-expectancy of 300,000 miles, but the Prius
> only has a life expectancy of 100,000 miles, which would tip the scale
> back in favor of the Hummer.

Who would put the life expectancy of a Prius at 100,000 miles?
Is that "cars" in general?
There are some articles online about the Prius in taxi service that reference
experiences at 250,000+ miles.

The California version of the Prius sold in several states should have a
15 year / 150,000 mile warranty on many components.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

The Henchman wrote:
> "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote in message
> news:bLWdnRZ9-6BNKa7bnZ2dnUVZ_uPinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>Spam away wrote:
>>
>>>In article <evWdnfgaXoNlG7bbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
>>> "Fred G. Mackey" <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mining all that nickel and shipping it all over the world for processing
>>>>and manufacture is a huge hit to the environment.
>>>
>>>Nickel is also used in stainless steel.
>>>See exhaust systems, trash cans, kitchen utensils, etc.
>>
>>In what quantities?
>>
>>Does it have to be shipped across the ocean and back to be turned into the
>>final product?
>
>
> Google up Sudbury Ontario and INCO smelting for close to home nickle
> mining.........
>
>


yeah - the nickel is mined in Canada - the article I read said that, but
it is shipped overseas to process into batteries and then shipped back here.

If they were just making forks or trash cans out of it, I'm sure all
that shipping isn't necessary.

The 1st Prius batteries didn't last that long and where rather heavily
priced. which meant that replacing them was not really economicly
viable. hence the 100.000 miles figure.

in other words outdated info.

regards,

M.

dold@67.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In alt.autos.ford Fred G. Mackey <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
>> Then again, since reading that article, I've seen other sources which
>> state a Hummer has a life-expectancy of 300,000 miles, but the Prius
>> only has a life expectancy of 100,000 miles, which would tip the scale
>> back in favor of the Hummer.
>
> Who would put the life expectancy of a Prius at 100,000 miles?
> Is that "cars" in general?
> There are some articles online about the Prius in taxi service that reference
> experiences at 250,000+ miles.
>
> The California version of the Prius sold in several states should have a
> 15 year / 150,000 mile warranty on many components.
>

In rec.autos.makers.honda none <monkey@zoo.org> wrote:
> The 1st Prius batteries didn't last that long and where rather heavily
> priced. which meant that replacing them was not really economicly
> viable. hence the 100.000 miles figure.

There was a corrosion problem on the same terminal within many of the Gen I
battery packs. They were covered under warranty, or goodwill, well beyond
100,000 miles. Some of the early victims had to pay half, and may have
been reimbursed later when it was recognized as a latent defect.

> in other words outdated info.

Roger that.

I was discussing the GM-holds-the-patent-on-large-NiMH-battery conspiracy,
and wondered if there were really any truth to it, or just something that
gets so much publicity that it morphs into a truism.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

I have a relative who got the first off Prius in Toronto and it's still
going strong on the original batteries.
She drives mostly in the inner city, so the Prius suits her driving
pattern.

In article <281f$463509c4$54298aa3$18158@news.speedlinq.nl> ,
none <monkey@zoo.org> wrote:

> The 1st Prius batteries didn't last that long and where rather heavily
> priced. which meant that replacing them was not really economicly
> viable. hence the 100.000 miles figure.
>
> in other words outdated info.
>
> regards,
>
> M.
>
> dold@67.usenet.us.com wrote:
> > In alt.autos.ford Fred G. Mackey <nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
> >> Then again, since reading that article, I've seen other sources which
> >> state a Hummer has a life-expectancy of 300,000 miles, but the Prius
> >> only has a life expectancy of 100,000 miles, which would tip the scale
> >> back in favor of the Hummer.
> >
> > Who would put the life expectancy of a Prius at 100,000 miles?
> > Is that "cars" in general?
> > There are some articles online about the Prius in taxi service that
> > reference
> > experiences at 250,000+ miles.
> >
> > The California version of the Prius sold in several states should have a
> > 15 year / 150,000 mile warranty on many components.
> >