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Old 06 Feb 2007, 10:07 am
Megan
 
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Default '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

I need more help! I got some great advice last fall about the cold
start problem I was having but I am still stranded! Previously the
problem was narrowed down to a leaking fuel injector. I replaced that
one only to discover that two more were leaking. I just replaced
those two and the starter and am still having the same problem! Any
ideas?

93 Accord
200,000 miles
Has new: spark plugs, wires, rotor, dist. cap, coolant temp. sensor,
fuel filter, starter and 3 fuel injectors

Thanks for any help you can give me!

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Old 06 Feb 2007, 10:18 am
High Tech Misfit
 
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Megan wrote:

> I need more help! I got some great advice last fall about the cold
> start problem I was having but I am still stranded! Previously the
> problem was narrowed down to a leaking fuel injector. I replaced that
> one only to discover that two more were leaking. I just replaced
> those two and the starter and am still having the same problem! Any
> ideas?
>
> 93 Accord
> 200,000 miles
> Has new: spark plugs, wires, rotor, dist. cap, coolant temp. sensor,
> fuel filter, starter and 3 fuel injectors
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me!


Are the new parts OEM or aftermarket?
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Old 06 Feb 2007, 11:01 am
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

All are aftermarket except the plug wires.

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Old 06 Feb 2007, 11:39 am
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Megan wrote:
> I need more help! I got some great advice last fall about the cold
> start problem I was having but I am still stranded! Previously the
> problem was narrowed down to a leaking fuel injector. I replaced that
> one only to discover that two more were leaking. I just replaced
> those two and the starter and am still having the same problem! Any
> ideas?
>
> 93 Accord
> 200,000 miles
> Has new: spark plugs, wires, rotor, dist. cap, coolant temp. sensor,
> fuel filter, starter and 3 fuel injectors
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me!
>

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You never replace injectors . . . Using injector cleaner two or three
times a year will keep them spotless.

You need to tell us what "the same problem" is.

Are you holding the pedal half-way to the floor like the owner's manual
says for cold weather, or all the way to the floor like the manual says
for flooded engine?

'Curly'
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Old 06 Feb 2007, 11:40 am
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Megan wrote:
> I need more help! I got some great advice last fall about the cold
> start problem I was having but I am still stranded! Previously the
> problem was narrowed down to a leaking fuel injector. I replaced that
> one only to discover that two more were leaking. I just replaced
> those two and the starter and am still having the same problem! Any
> ideas?
>
> 93 Accord
> 200,000 miles
> Has new: spark plugs, wires, rotor, dist. cap, coolant temp. sensor,
> fuel filter, starter and 3 fuel injectors
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me!
>

you need to find a different dealer or a reputable independent honda
specialist - honda injectors almost never fail, even after hundreds of
thousands of miles. three is almost impossible. find someone that
knows what they're doing - and run injector cleaner through it every few
months. stop buying cheap gasoline too. stick to chevron, shell, etc.
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Old 06 Feb 2007, 12:34 pm
High Tech Misfit
 
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Megan wrote:

> All are aftermarket except the plug wires.


And that may be part of the problem. Use OEM parts.
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Old 06 Feb 2007, 12:42 pm
Megan
 
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The problem: When the weather is cold I can only get the car to turn
over (and 'jump' periodically). Once it gets going it will restart no
problem. Holding the accelerator down, half or all the way, helps
make it 'jump' more but not ever fully start. Sometimes it helps to
jump it off by getting it to turn over faster. I have had the battery
tested twice and came up OK.

I was advised to replace the fuel injector since one of my plugs was
black and burnt up after a few weeks and heavily smelled of gas.
After replacing the first injector the plug has remained pristine.
Two other plugs started fouling - that's why we replaced those.

I ran a bottle of Techron through prior to the first replacement and
noticed no change. I ran another bottle through after the first
replacement and noticed no change.

I am the third owner of this car, although it has only been for a year
and a half.

Thanks for all of your input. I'm out of ideas!!

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Old 06 Feb 2007, 01:44 pm
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yah when replacing 1 injector you should change them all..because you
see now what happens it gets the others on same rail leaking..so next
time if you do 1 do them all on 1 rail or 2 alot of people don't think
of changing air filter..that there alone can make it start hard...you
might have fuel pump tested also...also use some sea foam in it incase
has moister in gas sea foam is good stuff..


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Old 08 Feb 2007, 09:41 am
Megan
 
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Does anyone have a suggestion (beyond replacing all aftermarket parts
with manufacturer)?

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Old 08 Feb 2007, 10:03 am
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Default Re: '93 Accord Cold Start Problem Part II

Megan wrote:
> Does anyone have a suggestion (beyond replacing all aftermarket parts
> with manufacturer)?
>

yes - you need to take it to someone that knows what they're doing.
someone that simply replaces honda injectors doesn't and should be
avoided. find a reputable independent honda specialist. they exist.

if you want to get out your tool box and work through the diagnostics
with us, we can do that, but without hands on, it's psychic wednesday.
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