Honda Car Forum

I made a right turn over a speedbump in a parking lot and heard a loud
bang. It was dawn at the time and I couldn't see anything wrong with
the car. Later I came out to my car and found the windshield cracked
horizontally on the passenger side. The dealership said that the crack
crosses a tiny pit (found by running a ballpoint pen over the crack) so
there's no warranty service.

I can't believe it. I've already lemon-lawed my 05 Accord for ongoing
engine problems and yet it's still a repair nightmare. Honda can't pick
this car up soon enough.

By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
unrefined technology that kills reliability.

In article
<mcmurtri-80AF2A.20272101022007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.

I can give you the Honda attitude, but to jump from the frying pan into
the fire by buying Audi? Good God, man, what were you thinking?

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:27:21 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

> By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
> The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
> unrefined technology that kills reliability.

You're upset about Honda reliability, so you bought an Audi?

Good luck with that... ;-)

BTW: Don't you have insurance on the car? Most comprehensive policies
give full glass coverage. And many glass places will do the work for you
right where the car is parked. Wouldn't even have to miss any work...

Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

> I can't believe it. I've already lemon-lawed my 05 Accord for ongoing
> engine problems and yet it's still a repair nightmare. Honda can't pick
> this car up soon enough.
>
> By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
> The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
> unrefined technology that kills reliability.

Don't judge Honda's quality based on a sour experience with one bad car.

And I'm sorry to inform you that Audi's quality is beyond dreadful. You're
going to wish you had kept that Honda.

Joe LaVigne wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:27:21 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>
>
>>By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
>>The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
>>unrefined technology that kills reliability.
>
>
> You're upset about Honda reliability, so you bought an Audi?
>
> Good luck with that... ;-)
>
> BTW: Don't you have insurance on the car? Most comprehensive policies
> give full glass coverage. And many glass places will do the work for you
> right where the car is parked. Wouldn't even have to miss any work...

Yeah, most comprehensive coverage will do it... with a deductible that's almost
the cost of the job anyway.

In article <1kx96q6uocbss.dlg@hightech.misfit>,
High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>
> > I can't believe it. I've already lemon-lawed my 05 Accord for ongoing
> > engine problems and yet it's still a repair nightmare. Honda can't pick
> > this car up soon enough.
> >
> > By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
> > The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
> > unrefined technology that kills reliability.
>
> Don't judge Honda's quality based on a sour experience with one bad car.

But it went in for repairs again, and again, and again, and again... It
had many non-warranty problems too.

> And I'm sorry to inform you that Audi's quality is beyond dreadful. You're
> going to wish you had kept that Honda.

The Audi is a blast. It makes the Accord Hybrid feel like an aging
delivery truck. The construction and engineering quality appear to be
highly refined and top-notch. I say the same of the 97 Civic HX I used
to have. If Honda still put that same quality, performance, and
refinement into their cars I'd still be driving one. These days Hondas
resemble American cars too much - big, numb, and a lack of engineering
refinement that hurts reliability. I was appalled at what I saw when I
bought the 05 Accord Hybrid service manual. It's a hack and it's no
surprise that mechanics can't fix it.

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:04:53 +0000, Matt Ion wrote:

> Joe LaVigne wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:27:21 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>>
>>
>>>By all. I bought an Audi A3. Honda's cars aren't what they used to be.
>>>The current models handle like delivery trucks and they're loaded with
>>>unrefined technology that kills reliability.
>>
>>
>> You're upset about Honda reliability, so you bought an Audi?
>>
>> Good luck with that... ;-)
>>
>> BTW: Don't you have insurance on the car? Most comprehensive policies
>> give full glass coverage. And many glass places will do the work for you
>> right where the car is parked. Wouldn't even have to miss any work...
>
> Yeah, most comprehensive coverage will do it... with a deductible that's almost
> the cost of the job anyway.

Odd. I have had comprehensive for many years, and there is never a
deductible for glass coverage.

My comprehensive deductible is $500. But glass is always 100% coverage,
no deductible.

Maybe this is a NY State thing? It has been the case with Allstate,
Progressive, and Geico...

Kevin McMurtrie wrote:

>> Don't judge Honda's quality based on a sour experience with one bad car.
>
> But it went in for repairs again, and again, and again, and again... It
> had many non-warranty problems too.
>
Again I say, that's just one Honda.


>> And I'm sorry to inform you that Audi's quality is beyond dreadful. You're
>> going to wish you had kept that Honda.
>
> The Audi is a blast. It makes the Accord Hybrid feel like an aging
> delivery truck. The construction and engineering quality appear to be
> highly refined and top-notch. I say the same of the 97 Civic HX I used
> to have. If Honda still put that same quality, performance, and
> refinement into their cars I'd still be driving one.

Like I said, that Honda was just one rare lemon. And it is a statistical
fact that Audi's mechanical reliability has been horrible (which appears to
be the norm for German cars these days). So I would be prepared to take
that Audi back to the dealer for repairs as often as if not more often than
you did with your Accord.

In article <eq166e$393$12@news.datemas.de>,
Joe LaVigne <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

> > Yeah, most comprehensive coverage will do it... with a deductible that's
> > almost
> > the cost of the job anyway.
>
> Odd. I have had comprehensive for many years, and there is never a
> deductible for glass coverage.

That's because you're overpaying for your insurance policy.

Trust me, NOTHING is free. Only a sucker who believes the marketing
crap falls into that trap.

In article
<mcmurtri-55283B.21060202022007@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> > And I'm sorry to inform you that Audi's quality is beyond dreadful. You're
> > going to wish you had kept that Honda.
>
> The Audi is a blast. It makes the Accord Hybrid feel like an aging
> delivery truck. The construction and engineering quality appear to be
> highly refined and top-notch.

I wouldn't buy a German car with YOUR money. (Been there, done that.) I
currently drive an old Lexus, and it's an amazingly satisfying car.

And yes, I "get" German cars. German cars are the expensive, pouty, and
high-maintenance mistresses of the road. Damn, they are a fine, fine
ride...

.....but then the maintenance and pouting kicks in.

At some point, without unlimited funds, you are at a decision point:
continue the high-priced, high-maintenance fun, or go back home and
enjoy your reliable Lexus wife of a car, patiently sitting there waiting
for you to get over the midlife crisis.

Oh sure, she's not as sexy as the German car, and she doesn't handle at
the edge like the German car. She's also not as fickle and high
maintenance and pouty, and she agrees with you much more of the time.
She's always there and never complains, and you come to realize there's
more to life than a high-maintenance relationship with a pouty,
high-maintenance woman--no matter how sexy she is or how fun the nights
out with her can be. Because when she lets you down and demands more of
you than you have to give, and treats you like dirt, you're standing
there all alone outside the club, looking and feeling like an idiot.

Your Lexus wife would never, ever do that to you.

And the occasional fun night out isn't worth what you end up paying for
it, both financially and in time wasted while you wait for the German
car mistress to be in the mood to play.

Do this: start paying attention to cars with tail light and headlight
problems. What brands of cars are you seeing? That's right--VW, M-B, and
BMW. And pay attention to how old, or rather how new, those problem cars
are.

The reality of electrical issues with German cars make Lucas electrics
look reliable.

Now *try* to find a Honda or Toyota, either low brand or high brand, no
matter how old, with non-working tail lights. Good luck.

It's a small thing, but it represents the reality of the situation. You
want to buy a German car? Just buy a GM car. At least the money you're
throwing away stays more inside the country--and you get just as
reliable a car.