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Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
1/2/07.

The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
Law?

Norm suggests:

> Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil
> on floor & took it to nearest Honda dealer

> Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or
> money back under the Lemon Law?

Thanks for the info!

That's the exact same problem with the 2003/2004 CR-V's that caused fires
and explosions and you are lucky your CR-V did not burst into flames.

Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.

I picked up the new Consumer Reports and the highest rated SUV is the Toyota
RAV-4, while the Honda CR-V wasn't even on the list.

In article <2e7oh.13592$Pe7.11130@trnddc04>, i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york
says...
> Norm suggests:
>
> > Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil
> > on floor & took it to nearest Honda dealer
>
> > Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> > in order to possibly qualify for replacement or
> > money back under the Lemon Law?
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> That's the exact same problem with the 2003/2004 CR-V's that caused fires
> and explosions and you are lucky your CR-V did not burst into flames.
>
> Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.

No, now you're officially an idiot. The CR-V fires referred to were
caused by the failure to remove the old oil filter gasket when changing
the oil filter. When the new filter was installed, it resulted in two
soft gaskets pressing against each other, which would leak under
pressure.

The failure of a main seal on a new engine is a manufacturing defect,
not a design flaw. The failure of the repair is due to inadequate
workmanship by the mechanic. As long as the engine was not run dry, it
should be repairable. Under the Massachusetts lemon law (Mass. Gen. Law
Chapter 90 Section 7N-1/2), the dealer is allowed:

"a reasonable number of repair attempts: three times for the same
substantial defect or 15 business days out of service for any
combination of serious defects.
If all the required attempts fail, and you give the manufacturer a
formal 7 business day "last chance" to fix the car, but that fails too,
you are entitled to a refund or replacement."

By this standard, in MA, the OP should bring it back to the original
dealer to try again.

Your rights may vary, so check with your state's attorney general's
office.

--Gene

Gene S. Berkowitz disrespectfully sez...

>> Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.
>
> No, now you're officially an idiot.

No, you are a Honda fanboy.

Truth is, the problem still exists today and my future purchase decision
will be based (in part) on those facts.

Oh and the Toyota RAV-4 scored higher on the latest Consumer Reports
(magazine edition), where the CR-V wasn't even on the "Best & Worst in
RELIABILITY" list.

"fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york> wrote in message
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> Gene S. Berkowitz disrespectfully sez...
>
>>> Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.
>>
>> No, now you're officially an idiot.
>
> No, you are a Honda fanboy.
>
> Truth is, the problem still exists today and my future purchase decision
> will be based (in part) on those facts.
>
> Oh and the Toyota RAV-4 scored higher on the latest Consumer Reports
> (magazine edition), where the CR-V wasn't even on the "Best & Worst in
> RELIABILITY" list.
>
Go to the Rav-4 newsgroups then. You're stupid analysis won't be missed
here. Now move along! Go spread your infection elsewhere.

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:13:18 GMT, "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york>
wrote:

>Norm suggests:
>
>> Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil
>> on floor & took it to nearest Honda dealer
>
>> Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
>> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or
>> money back under the Lemon Law?
>
>Thanks for the info!
>
>That's the exact same problem with the 2003/2004 CR-V's that caused fires
>and explosions and you are lucky your CR-V did not burst into flames.

Uh, no it isn't. That was caused by problems with the oil filter.
This is a main seal problem.


>
>Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.
>
>I picked up the new Consumer Reports and the highest rated SUV is the Toyota
>RAV-4, while the Honda CR-V wasn't even on the list.

You have the January issue. Wait a few days for the February issue to
hit the stands. CRV is rated just below RAV4. The Escape is rated
below Hyundai and Kia.


>

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:53:13 GMT, "fish" <i.am.such.ah.fish@new.york>
wrote:

>Gene S. Berkowitz disrespectfully sez...
>
>>> Now I am officially crossing the CR-V off my list.
>>
>> No, now you're officially an idiot.
>
>No, you are a Honda fanboy.
>
>Truth is, the problem still exists today and my future purchase decision
>will be based (in part) on those facts.

There is no evidence that the problem that caused the fires in '03 and
'04 has been seen in over two years. As has now been explained to
you, this is a completely different problem and it is too early to
assume that it is anything other than an isolated problem with this
particular vehicle.

>Oh and the Toyota RAV-4 scored higher on the latest Consumer Reports
>(magazine edition), where the CR-V wasn't even on the "Best & Worst in
>RELIABILITY" list.

CRV has predicted reliability much better than average, just like the
RAV4. See the Feb. issue of CR.

As for picking a car that's right for you, I am going to strongly
recommend the RAV4 so that you can go haunt the Toyota group with your
hysteria.

All state lemon laws are in one of the manuals which came with your car.
The action is against the factory, not the dealer. I suspect you can bring
it to any dealer but read the manual.


"Norm" <ntaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Purchased 12/23/06. On 12/30/07 noticed oil on floor & took it to nearest
> Honda dealer, not the one I bought it from as I did not want to drive too
> far not knowing the cause of the leak. Tentively diagnosed as rear main
> engine seal leak. Dealer rep told me NOT to drive it home to wait for the
> parts to come in as I might experience other problems. Parts to be ordered
> 1/2/07.
>
> The rear main engine seal was replaced on 1/4/07 and on 1/6 I found oil on
> the garage floor. This repair was done by the closest Honda dealer not the
> one I bought the car from. Which dealer do I go back to for further repair
> in order to possibly qualify for replacement or money back under the Lemon
> Law?
>
>
>

Gordon McGrew wrote:
8<
>
> As for picking a car that's right for you, I am going to strongly
> recommend the RAV4 so that you can go haunt the Toyota group with your
> hysteria.

don't say that - they don't deserve it. send his dumb ass over to the
ford group instead.