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Old 03 Jan 2007, 02:04 am
techman41973@yahoo.com
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Default Directional Tires and unstable handling (97 Accord 200K)

I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 02:35 am
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I drive on directionals god knows how many years and miles by now, and I
never had this problem...


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Old 03 Jan 2007, 11:17 am
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techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
> Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
> tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
> experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
> texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
> handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
> rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
> suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
> checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
> Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
> second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
> stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
> cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
> are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
> else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks
>

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I'd try about 30 PSI (cold) and see if it helps. Have you determined if
your guage is OK? I think that's the only detail you didn't provide.

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 11:24 am
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techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
> Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
> tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
> experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
> texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
> handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
> rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
> suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
> checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
> Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
> second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
> stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
> cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
> are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
> else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks


Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 11:51 am
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deerknucklesociety@gmail.com Wrote:
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>
> Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
> with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
> the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.


If you are not aware of this, hondas tend to last way more than 200 and
even 300K with a proper maintenance...


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Old 03 Jan 2007, 11:53 am
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In article <1167841481.292313.241710@48g2000cwx.googlegroups. com>, deerknucklesociety@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
> with 200,000 mi. on it.


On what planet do simple wear items like tires and struts cost more than
the payments on a rapidly depreciating new car?

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 11:56 am
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What tire pressure are you running? Too low will make it wallow, to much
will make it follow every groove in the road.

On 1/3/07 1:04 AM, in article
1167807859.046042.107580@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups. com,
"techman41973@yahoo.com" <techman41973@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
> Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
> tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
> experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
> texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
> handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
> rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
> suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
> checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
> Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
> second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
> stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
> cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
> are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
> else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks
>


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Old 03 Jan 2007, 12:52 pm
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deerknucklesociety@gmail.com wrote:
> techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I have a Honda Accord with 200K miles.
> > Over the past year, I have had two different brands/sets of directional
> > tires (Yokohama Avids & now Michelin Exalto A/S tires). I keep
> > experiencing erratic handling, mostly noticable on the freeway. Road
> > texture, especially grooved pavement seems to trip up the car's
> > handling, causing erratic lateral movement as if the car riding on
> > rails. In the past year, 3 mechanics checked out my steering and
> > suspension system and found nothing wrong. My alignment has been
> > checked many times over the year and is fine. I did have new Monroe
> > Sensatrac strutts installed before these sets of tires. This was my
> > second set of Sensatracs, where the previous set were fine. I have the
> > stock alloy rims. Not sure if old age or corrosion on wheels could
> > cause this problem. I did hear from one mechanic that directional tires
> > are more prone to these type of handling problems. I wonder if anyone
> > else has experienced these type of handling issues. Thanks

>
> Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
> with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
> the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.


WTF?

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 01:36 pm
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> Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
> with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
> the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.



Why? I love my Accord. Other than this problem, it runs like it's new.
In fact I take such good care of the interior, it looks brand new. At
the least I am waiting until the 2008 Accord.

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Old 03 Jan 2007, 08:59 pm
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techman41973@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Dear techman41: Stop spending your hard earned money on an old car
>> with 200,000 mi. on it. Unless you are really attached. Then replace
>> the entire steering mechnism. Then buy exotic parts for it.

>
>
> Why? I love my Accord. Other than this problem, it runs like it's new.
> In fact I take such good care of the interior, it looks brand new. At
> the least I am waiting until the 2008 Accord.
>

check the condition of the suspension bushings and ball joints - when
they wear, handling can get squirrely, especially the upper front
wishbone pivot.
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