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Hi,

I just ordered and received boots for my steering rack. However, I ordered two
of the cheaper boot and was planning on re-using the old clamps. (maybe I just
didn't notice that there were two listed or was just being cheap? I honestly
can't remember.) Now as I was about install them I did notice that there are two
listed, one for either side. I called the local dealer and they said the same.
They only had one side in stock so they couldn't really tell me if they were
different.

My question is are the left and right boots actually different?

I decided that I'm going to order the clamps as I am replacing the boots with
the rack still on the car and I may not be able to get the old clamps off in one
piece so I may as well order the other boot - if necessary.

Here's Majestic's picture and list. The following links will eventually take
you to the same page. The first one will probably wrap once or twice.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...OX&vinsrch=yes

http://preview.tinyurl.com/weovv

http://tinyurl.com/weovv

And FWIW: There has been some discussion in here (a while ago) about power
steering grease - silicone vs. mineral. My Helm's manual lists the part # as
08733-B070E on page 17-74. I bought some locally and it has been replaced with
part # 08C35-B0535L. On the tube it says: A grease made with a low viscosity
mineral oil with high refinement level and with Lithium-type soap. Then on page
17-80 a silicone grease is specified for the boots.

Thanks,



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John M.

John M. <jcm1139trash@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:v806p2tdgm7attat1i3hkt7aa2u2plur3u@4ax.com:

> Hi,
>
> I just ordered and received boots for my steering rack. However, I
> ordered two of the cheaper boot and was planning on re-using the old
> clamps. (maybe I just didn't notice that there were two listed or was
> just being cheap? I honestly can't remember.)



I'm not surprised. After all, seven dollars is a significant amount of
folding green these days.



> Now as I was about
> install them I did notice that there are two listed, one for either
> side. I called the local dealer and they said the same. They only had
> one side in stock so they couldn't really tell me if they were
> different.
>
> My question is are the left and right boots actually different?



You aren't capable of comparing the two yourself? You do have old and new
together, do you not?


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Tegger

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:09:23 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>John M. <jcm1139trash@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>news:v806p2tdgm7attat1i3hkt7aa2u2plur3u@4ax.com :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just ordered and received boots for my steering rack. However, I
>> ordered two of the cheaper boot and was planning on re-using the old
>> clamps. (maybe I just didn't notice that there were two listed or was
>> just being cheap? I honestly can't remember.)
>
>I'm not surprised. After all, seven dollars is a significant amount of
>folding green these days.

Yeah, I know it seems silly but I generally try to do things as inexpensively as
possible as I'm on a very limited budget.

>> Now as I was about
>> install them I did notice that there are two listed, one for either
>> side. I called the local dealer and they said the same. They only had
>> one side in stock so they couldn't really tell me if they were
>> different.
>> My question is are the left and right boots actually different?
>
>You aren't capable of comparing the two yourself? You do have old and new
>together, do you not?

I didn't want to rip the old ones out (which might very well be the literal case
when I do) until I was sure that the new one would fit. They do look the same
but I was wondering if there might be a slight difference in the diameter of the
rack at either end that I can't make out by putting the new down by the old for
a side by side comparison.
The weird thing is is the one that I bought is for the driver's side and I count
8 pleats on the original and 9 pleats on the new. The one on the passenger side
has 9. Other than that they look pretty much the same. And, yes, I did buy the
driver's side. It was the cheaper one. :-)
Maybe they sent the wrong one?

Thanks again,

--

John M.

"John M." <jcm1139trash@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:fug6p2d841gsadrcadfob80ckf8m3j00lq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:09:23 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m>
> wrote:
>
>>John M. <jcm1139trash@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>>news:v806p2tdgm7attat1i3hkt7aa2u2plur3u@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just ordered and received boots for my steering rack. However, I
>>> ordered two of the cheaper boot and was planning on re-using the old
>>> clamps. (maybe I just didn't notice that there were two listed or was
>>> just being cheap? I honestly can't remember.)
>>
>>I'm not surprised. After all, seven dollars is a significant amount of
>>folding green these days.
>
> Yeah, I know it seems silly but I generally try to do things as
> inexpensively as
> possible as I'm on a very limited budget.
>
>>> Now as I was about
>>> install them I did notice that there are two listed, one for either
>>> side. I called the local dealer and they said the same. They only had
>>> one side in stock so they couldn't really tell me if they were
>>> different.
>>> My question is are the left and right boots actually different?
>>
>>You aren't capable of comparing the two yourself? You do have old and new
>>together, do you not?
>
> I didn't want to rip the old ones out (which might very well be the
> literal case
> when I do) until I was sure that the new one would fit. They do look the
> same
> but I was wondering if there might be a slight difference in the diameter
> of the
> rack at either end that I can't make out by putting the new down by the
> old for
> a side by side comparison.
> The weird thing is is the one that I bought is for the driver's side and I
> count
> 8 pleats on the original and 9 pleats on the new. The one on the
> passenger side
> has 9. Other than that they look pretty much the same. And, yes, I did
> buy the
> driver's side. It was the cheaper one. :-)
> Maybe they sent the wrong one?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> --
>
> John M.
>

Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before replacing the
boots?

"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in
news:Glhlh.27679$hI.5770@newssvr11.news.prodigy.ne t:


>
> Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before replacing
> the boots?
>
>
>



No. You do have to remove the tie rod ends though.


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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:16:54 GMT, "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote:


>
>Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before replacing the
>boots?
>

In both my Helms and Chilton manuals any work done from the inner tie rod on in
is done with the whole rack removed. In a thread started on 2-15-06 titled "95
Accord Front Suspension Help" Dufus Systems says that the rack can be dropped
down a bit to work on the boots but that's an Accord. I looked at my Civic and
I may be able to drop it just a little but I think I can get by without doing
that. At least I hope so, I really don't want this to get too involved. When
doing something for the first time I usually work pretty slow and since this is
my only car I can't let it be off the road for too long.

--

John M.

John M. wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:16:54 GMT, "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote:
>
>
>> Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before replacing the
>> boots?
>>
>
> In both my Helms and Chilton manuals any work done from the inner tie rod on in
> is done with the whole rack removed. In a thread started on 2-15-06 titled "95
> Accord Front Suspension Help" Dufus Systems says that the rack can be dropped
> down a bit to work on the boots but that's an Accord. I looked at my Civic and
> I may be able to drop it just a little but I think I can get by without doing
> that. At least I hope so, I really don't want this to get too involved. When
> doing something for the first time I usually work pretty slow and since this is
> my only car I can't let it be off the road for too long.
>
> --
>
> John M.

it's a while since i've done it, but i'm reasonably confident you can
replace the boots with the rack in place. istr that all you need to do
is undo the tie rod from the knuckle end and you can slip the boot over
without undoing anything else.

the only thing that's really different about honda boots compared with
other cheaper makes is the air tube that equalizes the pressure between
each side, but i think you can figure out what to do with that!

jim beam wrote:
> John M. wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:16:54 GMT, "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before
>>> replacing the boots?
>>
>> In both my Helms and Chilton manuals any work done from the inner tie
>> rod on in
>> is done with the whole rack removed. In a thread started on 2-15-06
>> titled "95
>> Accord Front Suspension Help" Dufus Systems says that the rack can be
>> dropped
>> down a bit to work on the boots but that's an Accord. I looked at my
>> Civic and
>> I may be able to drop it just a little but I think I can get by
>> without doing
>> that. At least I hope so, I really don't want this to get too
>> involved. When
>> doing something for the first time I usually work pretty slow and
>> since this is
>> my only car I can't let it be off the road for too long.
>>
>> --
>>
>> John M.
>
> it's a while since i've done it, but i'm reasonably confident you can
> replace the boots with the rack in place. istr that all you need to do
> is undo the tie rod from the knuckle end and you can slip the boot over
> without undoing anything else.
>
> the only thing that's really different about honda boots compared with
> other cheaper makes is the air tube that equalizes the pressure between
> each side, but i think you can figure out what to do with that!

oh, and thanks for posting the updated grease part numbers! very helpful.

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:55:24 -0800, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>jim beam wrote:
>> John M. wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:16:54 GMT, "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just curious, do you have to remove the steering rack before
>>>> replacing the boots?
>>>
>>> In both my Helms and Chilton manuals any work done from the inner tie
>>> rod on in
>>> is done with the whole rack removed. In a thread started on 2-15-06
>>> titled "95
>>> Accord Front Suspension Help" Dufus Systems says that the rack can be
>>> dropped
>>> down a bit to work on the boots but that's an Accord. I looked at my
>>> Civic and
>>> I may be able to drop it just a little but I think I can get by
>>> without doing
>>> that. At least I hope so, I really don't want this to get too
>>> involved. When
>>> doing something for the first time I usually work pretty slow and
>>> since this is
>>> my only car I can't let it be off the road for too long.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> John M.
>>
>> it's a while since i've done it, but i'm reasonably confident you can
>> replace the boots with the rack in place. istr that all you need to do
>> is undo the tie rod from the knuckle end and you can slip the boot over
>> without undoing anything else.
>>
>> the only thing that's really different about honda boots compared with
>> other cheaper makes is the air tube that equalizes the pressure between
>> each side,

I have images of squeaking balloons in my head right now.

>>but i think you can figure out what to do with that!

Not a problem.

>oh, and thanks for posting the updated grease part numbers! very helpful.

Thanks and You're Welcome,

John M.