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daleboyd wrote:
> Not sure I read the same chart the same way!
>
> Sales of the Ridgeline October 2006 (42,038)-October 2005 (30,761) an
> increase of 36.7%.
>
>

I was comparing Oct 2006 vs Oct 2005 sales. You are looking at year to
date totals (Jan - Oct). Ridgeline wasn't available early in 2005.


> > snip
> >
> > well, see http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=629098
> > Ridgeline, Pilot and Element sales for October 2006 were over 20% lower
> > than Oct. 2005. A few months more of that and I suspect we'll see some
> > re-thinking of the whole trucklet thing.
> >

I do believe the Ridgeline did appear right after the Super Bowl in 2005
(great commercials by the way).


Also, notice on the chart, Honda import truck sales October 2005-10,850 -
October 2006 20,413, an increase of 95.7% (again, according the Honda sales
chart.


"ACAR" <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> daleboyd wrote:
>> Not sure I read the same chart the same way!
>>
>> Sales of the Ridgeline October 2006 (42,038)-October 2005 (30,761) an
>> increase of 36.7%.
>>
>>
>
> I was comparing Oct 2006 vs Oct 2005 sales. You are looking at year to
> date totals (Jan - Oct). Ridgeline wasn't available early in 2005.
>
>
>> > snip
>> >
>> > well, see http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=629098
>> > Ridgeline, Pilot and Element sales for October 2006 were over 20% lower
>> > than Oct. 2005. A few months more of that and I suspect we'll see some
>> > re-thinking of the whole trucklet thing.
>> >
>

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <yT0bh.27935$6t.14227@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com >,
> "Larry" <ziggy_calif@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Mini-van platform....I don't think so.
>
> Yep.
>
> Based on the same global platform that gives us the Accord, the
> Pilot/MDX, and the Odyssey minivan.
>
> When it starts out life like that, there's not much you can do to
> overcome the necessary compromises that leave it NOT a truck in the same
> mold as a Ford F150, for example.
>
> Too many things that make that platform suitable for an Accord can't be
> overcome to make a real truck.

The chassis is 90% exclusive, how does that equate to it being suitable
for an Accord?

I wasn't aware that an Accord had a fully boxed ladder frame under it.

90 percent exclusive is hard to prove. All you have to do is change a
couple of things and than it qualifies as a different part. The ladder
frame is the only thing that even remotely makes it qualify as a truck.


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BlackGT2000 wrote:
> 90 percent exclusive is hard to prove.

Then maybe they should be sued for false advertising.



> All you have to do is change a
> couple of things and than it qualifies as a different part. The ladder
> frame is the only thing that even remotely makes it qualify as a truck.

In a world where the majority of trucks sold never even come close to
being used as intended, does it really matter?

On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:25:43 -0600, "daleboyd" <daleboyd@insightbb.com>
wrote:

>I do believe the Ridgeline did appear right after the Super Bowl in 2005
>(great commercials by the way).
>
>
>Also, notice on the chart, Honda import truck sales October 2005-10,850 -
>October 2006 20,413, an increase of 95.7% (again, according the Honda sales
>chart.

The only import truck is the CRV. The newly redesigned model is
selling very well indeed.

>
>
>"ACAR" <dimndsonmywndshld@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> daleboyd wrote:
>>> Not sure I read the same chart the same way!
>>>
>>> Sales of the Ridgeline October 2006 (42,038)-October 2005 (30,761) an
>>> increase of 36.7%.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I was comparing Oct 2006 vs Oct 2005 sales. You are looking at year to
>> date totals (Jan - Oct). Ridgeline wasn't available early in 2005.
>>
>>
>>> > snip
>>> >
>>> > well, see http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=629098
>>> > Ridgeline, Pilot and Element sales for October 2006 were over 20% lower
>>> > than Oct. 2005. A few months more of that and I suspect we'll see some
>>> > re-thinking of the whole trucklet thing.
>>> >
>>
>

an 03 Element owner probably going to be an 07 Ridgline or lesser chance an
07 FJ


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> Mike wrote:
>> Honda planned its truck well
>> Honda Motor Co.'s modus operandi has been to analyze trends and
>> situations, and then to come up with a better idea followed by an
>> exemplary execution of that idea, or collection of ideas, prior to
>> instituting production of a new vehicle.
>
>> at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...1522-2136r.htm
>
> Yes, agreed, Honda planned it well. EXCEPT, they overlooked one major
> detail: Design. The Ridgeline is ugly! Even the article nailed it --
> "Japanese Avalanche" -- and, IMO, that's not a compliment! (IMO, the
> Chevy Avalanche is only slightly less ugly [couldn't use "slightly
> _prettier_ than"] than the Pontiac Aztec.
>
> And this critique is coming from someone who recently purchased a
> you-either-love-it-or-hate Honda Element.
>
> Patrick
> '06 Element EX-P
>

Hmmm but doesn't changing something make it a "different"
part........................thus exclusive.... But that isn't what can be
said for a good thing down the road. CRV and Element owners can swap a lot
of parts making most parts very available.



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> 90 percent exclusive is hard to prove. All you have to do is change a
> couple of things and than it qualifies as a different part. The ladder
> frame is the only thing that even remotely makes it qualify as a truck.
>
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All I am saying is that under all the sheet metal and interior, it has a
hell of a lot in common with an oddysey. I am sure what ever loose
estimation of percentage of different parts was calculated, a lot can
be chalked up to the grill, body panels, seats, radio, steering
wheel.... the list would go on and on.


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It certainly keeps costs down to have commonality of parts. However, the
frame for the Ridgeline did not come from an existing vehicle...it was
engineered specifically for this truck. The 2005 Odyssey also received a
newly designed and engineered frame on a similar platform That being said,
this truck was never designed to be a heavy duty pickup, rather it was
designed to have a nice comfortable ride and handle the toys and tools most
homeowners need a pickup for.


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> All I am saying is that under all the sheet metal and interior, it has a
> hell of a lot in common with an oddysey. I am sure what ever loose
> estimation of percentage of different parts was calculated, a lot can
> be chalked up to the grill, body panels, seats, radio, steering
> wheel.... the list would go on and on.
>
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