Honda Car Forum

Art wrote:

> All the ac's in the smaller cars suck these days because the freon
> replacment is inadequate. It takes a big car to get good ac. My 94 LHS
> with the freon replacement had enuf ac to freeze a small house but our new
> Accord can't handle 90 degrees.

Art, do you even know what you are talking about?
R134a refrigerant works every bit as well as R12; just at higher pressures.


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Jay A wrote:
> Well after being an '06 Civic owner for 3 months now, I can honestly say
> that the mileage in this thing is so overrated it's a shame. EPA states 30
> city 40 highway but in reality, it depends more on whether the air
> conditioning is on than anything. Yes I have gottan close to 40 (actually
> about 38 when I had no traffic at all and no AC on during the entire
> tankful...and that was only one tankful in the 3 months I have owned the
> car) but in reality, I rarely get more than 33mpg and lately with all the
> heat in SoCal, I am lucky to get 26mpg with the air on.


My 01 Civic commuter-mobile turns 38-40 mpg tank after tank after tank.
Using A/C
knocks that down to 36-38 mpg depending upon how much stop and go
driving I do.
I live in Fla where morning commutes are in cool-weather, and afternoon
drives are in hot.

> What gets me is that the Accord I had prior to the Civic seemed to get just
> about the same mileage whether the air was on or not. MAN I miss that car

That doesn't say much...more powerful engine wil be less affected by
A/C drag.. Does that mean you got 20 mpg regularly in the Accord, or 30
mpg, or ???


> am actually beginning to think about dumping the Civic and going back to the
> Accord. In addition to the poor mileage, the AM radio sounds awful, the air
> itself feels more like a heater when the car is not moving, and all in all
> I am not impressed with this vehicle one bit. The Accord is a great
> car...the Civic? You can have it!

Yes, you should dump it. I'd bet some long distance commuter would like
to buy it at
a hefty discount and would get much better mileage out of it than you
are getting.