Honda Car Forum

Thanks for all the advice, I'll wait until this winter for the next
update.

- regarding the frequency of Honda updates, they appear to be only
about a year behind in Boston, so I'm pleased with the frequency. In
any case, I plan to "testdrive" the updates at a dealer before
purchasing

- regarding the return policy, my dealer told me there is a 30 day
money back guarantee on the DVD's.

- in comparison to Garmin, I agree the Honda system is certainly more
expensive. I prefer it, however, because of the integrated voice
including radio shut-off while speaking, and because it integrates with
the wheels as a double-check on the GPS for added accuracy. Also, Honda
appears to be the only vendor that remembers road speeds and uses the
actual "experienced" speeds when planning directions.

-MVL

jmattis@attglobal.net wrote:

> The whole DVD thing is a rip-off. $200+ makes $3 a gallon look very
> reasonable.
>
> I just bought a newly-released Garmin c530 nav unit for $493 shipped.
> It has version 8 maps (from the same vendor the automakers use) which
> was just released 2 months ago and seems very up to date, even though
> there's been a lot of construction in Dallas/Ft.Worth. The update
> costs $75 to download every 12-18 months if you want.
>
> Hmmm. If a download costs $75, there's no excuse for a mailed DVD to
> cost more than $80.
>
> Screw Honda Acura and their $200 DVD's. Screw not being able to access
> the GPS except sitting in your car. Screw having to use a nav screen
> to adjust the a/c's fan speed. The satellite radio is confusing
> enough, without adding nav to the "bargain."

I guess you told US!!!!!

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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:30:00 GMT, TomP <-roadcyc@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>jmattis@attglobal.net wrote:
>
>> The whole DVD thing is a rip-off. $200+ makes $3 a gallon look very
>> reasonable.
>>
>> I just bought a newly-released Garmin c530 nav unit for $493 shipped.
>> It has version 8 maps (from the same vendor the automakers use) which
>> was just released 2 months ago and seems very up to date, even though
>> there's been a lot of construction in Dallas/Ft.Worth. The update
>> costs $75 to download every 12-18 months if you want.
>>
>> Hmmm. If a download costs $75, there's no excuse for a mailed DVD to
>> cost more than $80.
>>
>> Screw Honda Acura and their $200 DVD's. Screw not being able to access
>> the GPS except sitting in your car. Screw having to use a nav screen
>> to adjust the a/c's fan speed. The satellite radio is confusing
>> enough, without adding nav to the "bargain."
>
>I guess you told US!!!!!

I'll say. Why do we need any of this stuff? Let's go back to 3-speed
manual transmissions on the steering column, no power brakes, no power
steering, roll-up windows, tires that wear out in 4,000 miles, no air
conditioning, no heater either. And what do we need a radio for? Get
a 6-transistor AM radio off Ebay and listen to that. While we're at
it, lets go back to carburetors. And what do we need air bags and
anti-skid devices for? Learn to drive for crying out loud. Give me a
basic Pinto any day over these overly complicated Hondas. Right!

Dick

> - in comparison to Garmin, I agree the Honda system is certainly more
> expensive. I prefer it, however, because of the integrated voice
> including radio shut-off while speaking, and because it integrates with
> the wheels as a double-check on the GPS for added accuracy. Also, Honda
> appears to be the only vendor that remembers road speeds and uses the
> actual "experienced" speeds when planning directions.


The speedo and other inertial cross-checks are integrated into older
(including current Honda) GPS nav units, because the receivers lose the
satellite lock so easily. The GPS then guesses where the car really
is.

The latest SIRF chips in the Garmin units hardly ever lose satellite
lock, even without an external antenna on top of the car. I have been
under extremely wide overpasses, on the first floor of a 3 floor
building, etc. -- and the Garmin still knows where it is.

In article <1155093365.502720.225390@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
mvl_groups_user@yahoo.com wrote:

> Also, Honda
> appears to be the only vendor that remembers road speeds and uses the
> actual "experienced" speeds when planning directions.

Garmin appears to do this on my GPS 10.