Honda Car Forum

I've heard that HIDs are a high theft item because of their high cost.

Also, my 2004 Accord has very good headlights or maybe my old *&%@!!!
Intrepid's were so bad that anything looks good in comparison. Why would
you want HIDs anyway, or is it to just look cool and annoy the people in
front of and coming at you?


<jmattis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1151442354.458256.63830@j72g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> the HID lights which would be great. Toyota Prius offers
>> them, but Honda Civic Hybrid doesn't, go figure??!
>
>
> HID is not entirely reliable. If it were, then Honda Care's extended
> warranty would cover it (in Acuras). It doesn't.
>
> As much as an Acura owner would scream about a $900 HID light
> replacement, can you imagine how a CIvic/Accord owner would act?
>

Sparky Spartacus wrote:
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I know it's all well-intended and all, but I find it rather alarming
>> that a car could "phone home" whenever it wants, tattling on you.
>
>
> This is considered malware/spyware when it's on our computers. How can
> we know all that's being sent and what about after a couple of software
> updates?
>
and we have a winner folks! sparky gets the grand prize!

jim beam wrote:
> Sparky Spartacus wrote:
> > TeGGeR® wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> I know it's all well-intended and all, but I find it rather alarming
> >> that a car could "phone home" whenever it wants, tattling on you.
> >
> >
> > This is considered malware/spyware when it's on our computers. How can
> > we know all that's being sent and what about after a couple of software
> > updates?
> >
> and we have a winner folks! sparky gets the grand prize!

While I have reservations re. OnStar and similar services as expressed
above the inevitability of these "services" in all vehicles is reality.

ACAR wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>>Sparky Spartacus wrote:
>>
>>>TeGGeR® wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>I know it's all well-intended and all, but I find it rather alarming
>>>>that a car could "phone home" whenever it wants, tattling on you.
>>>
>>>
>>>This is considered malware/spyware when it's on our computers. How can
>>>we know all that's being sent and what about after a couple of software
>>>updates?
>>>
>>
>>and we have a winner folks! sparky gets the grand prize!
>
>
> While I have reservations re. OnStar and similar services as expressed
> above the inevitability of these "services" in all vehicles is reality.
>
so you're inevitably willing to accept paying a monthly operations
subscription in order to drive your car? because that's the next
logical step. and built-in obsolescence? how much 10 or 20 year old
software do you run on your pc? no dude, this whole thing is way bigger
and more scary than you're admitting. bottom line, it's not inevitable
by any means if you don't buy it and endorse its use. it's not [at this
point] compulsory and will fail in the market place if it's not supported.

jim beam wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
> > jim beam wrote:
> >
> >>Sparky Spartacus wrote:
> >>
> >>>TeGGeR® wrote:
> >>>
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>>I know it's all well-intended and all, but I find it rather alarming
> >>>>that a car could "phone home" whenever it wants, tattling on you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>This is considered malware/spyware when it's on our computers. How can
> >>>we know all that's being sent and what about after a couple of software
> >>>updates?
> >>>
> >>
> >>and we have a winner folks! sparky gets the grand prize!
> >
> >
> > While I have reservations re. OnStar and similar services as expressed
> > above the inevitability of these "services" in all vehicles is reality.
> >
> so you're inevitably willing to accept paying a monthly operations
> subscription in order to drive your car? because that's the next
> logical step.

pay for radio? nah, radio is free!

When "properly" packaged and marketed the American public will buy
anything. Just my derivative of H.L. Menchen's "No one ever went broke
underestimating the taste of the American public."

Watch for insurance companies to give discounts to people with OnStar
and similar services. Perhaps that is already the case, I don't know.

Thanks for the comments everyone. I am not really a big fan of OnStar,
just like that it adds safety to the vehicle along with other safety
features. About the HID system...I don't find the lights annoying if
they are REAL HID and not the fake high beam type that blind everyone.
Also I only keep my cars for 3 years and then lease a new one, so
worrying about the HID warrenty wouldnt be an issue for me.

Al

In article <1151514071.958026.286890@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
"Al437737" <alphaorder2000-genitalherpes@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also I only keep my cars for 3 years and then lease a new one,

Which is pretty damned stupid, no matter what.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <1151514071.958026.286890@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
> "Al437737" <alphaorder2000-genitalherpes@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Also I only keep my cars for 3 years and then lease a new one,
>
>
> Which is pretty damned stupid, no matter what.
>
depends on your tax status. if you're self employed, you get to write
off 100% of the lease payments - that's a major disincentive to buy.
unless it's a hummer - there's a special dispensation for those.

> >
> > Which is pretty damned stupid, no matter what.
> >
> depends on your tax status. if you're self employed, you get to write
> off 100% of the lease payments - that's a major disincentive to buy.
> unless it's a hummer - there's a special dispensation for those.


No, the reason I lease is so I can have a monthly payment for an accord
ex with all the options with no down payment for the amount of a Civic
lx with a down payment. I like all the creature comforts and the big
car feel of an accord with the payments of a civic, and this way I can
get all of that. Also I get bored easily so this way I can get a new
car every 3 years with full warenty and then trade it in and get
another brand new car, maybe something else this time, maybe a CRV,
then maybe a Pilot...

Some people spend alot of money on jewelry, furniture, clothes, and
vacations...I spend it on cars.

> > > Which is pretty damned stupid, no matter what.
> > >
> > depends on your tax status. if you're self employed, you get to write
> > off 100% of the lease payments - that's a major disincentive to buy.
> > unless it's a hummer - there's a special dispensation for those.
>


Oh one more thing, I think leasing seems to be popular in certain
geographical areas. For instance, I am in the North East of the US and
it seems like everyone in my area, no matter who they are seems to
lease cars. I am on my 4th leased car, and personally I like it alot.
You need to have good credit and be at least 25 years old to get a
lease, but I think its a good deal.