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I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater wires
are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?

I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL with
P1162.

Thanks.

Jim

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Nasty wrote:

> I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater wires
> are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
> heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?
>
> I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL with
> P1162.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim

Generic O2 sensors won't work. Bite the bullet and get an OEM part.

High Tech Misfit wrote:
>
> Nasty wrote:
>
> > I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater wires
> > are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
> > heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?
> >
> > I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL with
> > P1162.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Generic O2 sensors won't work. Bite the bullet and get an OEM part.



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There's a good info page here http://www.ngksparkplugs.ca/

There's also one at bosch.com, but DON'T buy their products.

NTK's can be had (for my '00 CR-V) for under $100 CAN at NAPA.

I thought Honda OEM's are NTK

'Curly'

"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Nasty wrote:
>
>> I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater
>> wires
>> are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
>> heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?
>>
>> I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL
>> with
>> P1162.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Generic O2 sensors won't work. Bite the bullet and get an OEM part.

I didn't know that (obviously <sf>). Do you know why not? Just curious.

I guess I'll head for the auto parts store in the morning, thanks.

There is no such thing as a generic oxygen sensor that fits every car.
For example, the Bosch "Universal" oxygen sensor is actually 12
distinct lines (maybe more now) of sensors matched to the specific
vehicle application. People have run into problems installing a
"universal" sensor for Nissan in a Honda as I searched on the topic.
That's a no no. Bosch's universal line will provide detailed
instruction on how to splice on the old connector with the Posi-Lok
connector.

Came across the catalyst efficiency code on an Accord that sometimes
turns on the MIL and often stores its first tripping in memory when
there was no MIL. Decided to change out the OEM Denso thimble sensor
with a $89 Bosch planar sensor (OEM plug, not the universal one for
$79). Code disappeared for two months now. So I wonder if it was the
primary sensor all along.

http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors

Dump the Denso sensor at 60K miles I'd say (most cats reportedly go bad
around 80K). Denso may be the source of the problem. NTK however came
from the same company that makes NGK. Could be a better bet than Denso.
But Bosch's new generation of planar sensors are excellent.

On the web, the Bosch secondary sensor for the Accord with OEM plug
looks like a thimble. But the universal line for the secondary looks
like the new planar sensor (with vent holes only at the tip). If there
is a need to change that secondary sensor I'll select the Bosch
"universal" line specificly made for the Accord just to get the planar
sensor.


Nasty wrote:
> "High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:a5kivibdtivs$.dlg@hightech.misfit...
> > Nasty wrote:
> >
> >> I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater
> >> wires
> >> are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
> >> heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?
> >>
> >> I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL
> >> with
> >> P1162.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >
> > Generic O2 sensors won't work. Bite the bullet and get an OEM part.
>
> I didn't know that (obviously <sf>). Do you know why not? Just curious.
>
> I guess I'll head for the auto parts store in the morning, thanks.

I didn't mean to imply that there IS a generic that will fit every car. I
meant I bought one for my Accord that didn't have the connector on it.

Nonetheless, it doesn't work. So I bought a new Bosch sensor. It won't screw
into the manifold...

So back to Advance Auto Parts I go again.


<johngdole@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151127940.577596.197060@r2g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> There is no such thing as a generic oxygen sensor that fits every car.
> For example, the Bosch "Universal" oxygen sensor is actually 12
> distinct lines (maybe more now) of sensors matched to the specific
> vehicle application. People have run into problems installing a
> "universal" sensor for Nissan in a Honda as I searched on the topic.
> That's a no no. Bosch's universal line will provide detailed
> instruction on how to splice on the old connector with the Posi-Lok
> connector.
>
> Came across the catalyst efficiency code on an Accord that sometimes
> turns on the MIL and often stores its first tripping in memory when
> there was no MIL. Decided to change out the OEM Denso thimble sensor
> with a $89 Bosch planar sensor (OEM plug, not the universal one for
> $79). Code disappeared for two months now. So I wonder if it was the
> primary sensor all along.
>
> http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors
>
> Dump the Denso sensor at 60K miles I'd say (most cats reportedly go bad
> around 80K). Denso may be the source of the problem. NTK however came
> from the same company that makes NGK. Could be a better bet than Denso.
> But Bosch's new generation of planar sensors are excellent.
>
> On the web, the Bosch secondary sensor for the Accord with OEM plug
> looks like a thimble. But the universal line for the secondary looks
> like the new planar sensor (with vent holes only at the tip). If there
> is a need to change that secondary sensor I'll select the Bosch
> "universal" line specificly made for the Accord just to get the planar
> sensor.
>
>
> Nasty wrote:
>> "High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:a5kivibdtivs$.dlg@hightech.misfit...
>> > Nasty wrote:
>> >
>> >> I bought a generic O2 sensor for my 2000 Accord EX. The sensor heater
>> >> wires
>> >> are the same color, white on the old one, black on the new one. Is the
>> >> heater circuit positive / negative sensitive?
>> >>
>> >> I installed it using the old connector and get an almost immediate CEL
>> >> with
>> >> P1162.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >
>> > Generic O2 sensors won't work. Bite the bullet and get an OEM part.
>>
>> I didn't know that (obviously <sf>). Do you know why not? Just curious.
>>
>> I guess I'll head for the auto parts store in the morning, thanks.
>

"Nasty" <nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
>I didn't mean to imply that there IS a generic that will
>fit every car. I meant I bought one for my Accord that
>didn't have the connector on it.
>
> Nonetheless, it doesn't work. So I bought a new Bosch
> sensor.

Like Misfit said, seriously consider OEM. Best prices I've
found are at
https://www.automedicsupply.com/
They ship quickly. I used them a couple of years ago and am
very pleased with the OEM sensor they sold and shipped me.

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:aHkng.785$NP4.52@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink .net...
> "Nasty" <nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
>>I didn't mean to imply that there IS a generic that will fit every car. I
>>meant I bought one for my Accord that didn't have the connector on it.
>>
>> Nonetheless, it doesn't work. So I bought a new Bosch sensor.

It doesn't work either and the pigtail is about 2-3" too short.

>
> Like Misfit said, seriously consider OEM. Best prices I've found are at
> https://www.automedicsupply.com/
> They ship quickly. I used them a couple of years ago and am very pleased
> with the OEM sensor they sold and shipped me.

Thanks but I'm gonna bite the bullet and go to Honda on Monday. I've read
some discussion that the VTec F23A4 has some quirks that make it so that
only a Honda sensor will work. We'll see if that fixes it.

"Nasty" <nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
E
>> Like Misfit said, seriously consider OEM. Best prices
>> I've found are at
>> https://www.automedicsupply.com/
>> They ship quickly. I used them a couple of years ago and
>> am very pleased with the OEM sensor they sold and shipped
>> me.
>
> Thanks but I'm gonna bite the bullet and go to Honda on
> Monday. I've read some discussion that the VTec F23A4 has
> some quirks that make it so that only a Honda sensor will
> work. We'll see if that fixes it.

Sounds like you're in a hurry (understandable). But for
future reference and the archives, the store above sells
genuine Honda sensors. Denso is the OEM (or one of the OEM)
oxygen sensor manufacturer(s) for Honda, for example, and
that's what the site above sells.

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:M%mng.1943$ii.551@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
> "Nasty" <nastymychain@tampabay.rr.com> wrote
> E
>>> Like Misfit said, seriously consider OEM. Best prices I've found are at
>>> https://www.automedicsupply.com/
>>> They ship quickly. I used them a couple of years ago and am very pleased
>>> with the OEM sensor they sold and shipped me.
>>
>> Thanks but I'm gonna bite the bullet and go to Honda on Monday. I've read
>> some discussion that the VTec F23A4 has some quirks that make it so that
>> only a Honda sensor will work. We'll see if that fixes it.
>
> Sounds like you're in a hurry (understandable). But for future reference
> and the archives, the store above sells genuine Honda sensors. Denso is
> the OEM (or one of the OEM) oxygen sensor manufacturer(s) for Honda, for
> example, and that's what the site above sells.

I understand. But I've already bought two sensors that "the book" says will
work in my car,,, and don't. I've been dicking around with this too long
already and need to get it fixed.

Thanks for the info though. I do appreciate it.