Honda Car Forum

I have a 1999 Odyssey which we bought new. It now has 109K miles. My son has
been driving it, and reported that the transmission sometimes slips. I took
it to the dealer and they said they got the transmission to slip, the codes
reported by the transmission indicated a failing clutch, and that the
transmission would need to be replaced. They said my car was beyond the
warranty (which I believe ends at 100K miles for my car) and the replacement
would cost $2700. So now for my questions:

Does this sound like the symptoms of the transmission failure for which the
warranty was extended?

How does the failure typically progress from here? Should I expect a sudden
catestrophic failure which would leave me stranded, or do they generally
degrade gradually while maintaining some ability to get home?

What are the odds that the problem stays at about it's current level (which
is not a big deal) rather than progressing?

Has anyone had success with fluid changes or flushing (or for that matter
anything other than a complete replacement)?

Are there cheaper alternatives than the dealer for transmission replacement,
and if so, with which national brands (if any) have people had success?

Thanks in advance,

Frank Kerfoot

In article <dLSdndkK7viLIhXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Frank Kerfoot" <kerfoot@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a 1999 Odyssey which we bought new. It now has 109K miles. My son has
> been driving it, and reported that the transmission sometimes slips. I took
> it to the dealer and they said they got the transmission to slip, the codes
> reported by the transmission indicated a failing clutch, and that the
> transmission would need to be replaced. They said my car was beyond the
> warranty (which I believe ends at 100K miles for my car) and the replacement
> would cost $2700. So now for my questions:
>
> Does this sound like the symptoms of the transmission failure for which the
> warranty was extended?

Yes.



> What are the odds that the problem stays at about it's current level (which
> is not a big deal) rather than progressing?

Nil.



> Are there cheaper alternatives than the dealer for transmission replacement,
> and if so, with which national brands (if any) have people had success?

I have a great relationship with my Honda dealer. And I know how their
system works with respect to Honda. I also have an 02 Odyssey, which is
a different transmission than yours but which was subject to its own
recall. I do not plan on ever--EVER--paying to replace or repair the
transmission.

Were I you, I would calmly head to your dealership service manager and
ask that this be taken care of--quietly. You bought the car with
Honda's reputation in mind, and everyone knows that Honda's bean
counters dropped the ball on these things BIG TIME. In addition, you're
only 9K miles out of the official warranty.

Honda provides its dealers with a decent amount of latitude to take care
of its customers in situations like this. I know that were I you, I
would not have to pay for the transmission repair, or even ask more than
once to have it covered under goodwill. (That's the key term for Honda:
goodwill. You must acknowledge that technically Honda owes you nothing,
but perhaps they'd fix it under a goodwill policy.)

Also try calling Honda. By the way, this is one reason to get dealer oil
changes. You can always try giving them a guilt trip when something like
this happens if routinely bring the car for service there.



"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-001099.21074408062006@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <dLSdndkK7viLIhXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Frank Kerfoot" <kerfoot@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1999 Odyssey which we bought new. It now has 109K miles. My son
>> has
>> been driving it, and reported that the transmission sometimes slips. I
>> took
>> it to the dealer and they said they got the transmission to slip, the
>> codes
>> reported by the transmission indicated a failing clutch, and that the
>> transmission would need to be replaced. They said my car was beyond the
>> warranty (which I believe ends at 100K miles for my car) and the
>> replacement
>> would cost $2700. So now for my questions:
>>
>> Does this sound like the symptoms of the transmission failure for which
>> the
>> warranty was extended?
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
>> What are the odds that the problem stays at about it's current level
>> (which
>> is not a big deal) rather than progressing?
>
> Nil.
>
>
>
>> Are there cheaper alternatives than the dealer for transmission
>> replacement,
>> and if so, with which national brands (if any) have people had success?
>
> I have a great relationship with my Honda dealer. And I know how their
> system works with respect to Honda. I also have an 02 Odyssey, which is
> a different transmission than yours but which was subject to its own
> recall. I do not plan on ever--EVER--paying to replace or repair the
> transmission.
>
> Were I you, I would calmly head to your dealership service manager and
> ask that this be taken care of--quietly. You bought the car with
> Honda's reputation in mind, and everyone knows that Honda's bean
> counters dropped the ball on these things BIG TIME. In addition, you're
> only 9K miles out of the official warranty.
>
> Honda provides its dealers with a decent amount of latitude to take care
> of its customers in situations like this. I know that were I you, I
> would not have to pay for the transmission repair, or even ask more than
> once to have it covered under goodwill. (That's the key term for Honda:
> goodwill. You must acknowledge that technically Honda owes you nothing,
> but perhaps they'd fix it under a goodwill policy.)
>

Frank Kerfoot <kerfoot@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have a 1999 Odyssey which we bought new. It now has 109K miles. My son
> has been driving it, and reported that the transmission sometimes slips.
> I took it to the dealer and they said they got the transmission to slip,
> the codes reported by the transmission indicated a failing clutch, and
> that the transmission would need to be replaced. They said my car was
> beyond the warranty (which I believe ends at 100K miles for my car) and
> the replacement would cost $2700. So now for my questions:

The clutches went out in my Dodge Durango at 90+. I thought that would
mean a new tranny, but the clutch pack was changed for about $250.
Maybe aftermarket has different ideas about how to fix this.

You have a 100,000 mile warranty? I had a failure on a Ford at 106,000
that I whined about and they agreed to cover the parts, I pay for labor.
When I picked the car up, they said that the warranty had picked up the
part, and the dealer was covering the labor.
I had none of the routine maintenance done at the dealer.

> Does this sound like the symptoms of the transmission failure for which the
> warranty was extended?

Also on the Ford... I found that different dealers are very much different
in their knowledge of Technical Service Bulletins (TSB). When the intake
manifold cracked, the dealer where I had it towed knew nothing about the
extended warranty, but my selling dealer said it was covered. I had some
trouble with the dealer where it was, but that was eventually covered,
although it was not a pleasant experience. I had to provide the TSB
number. My dealer looked it up by VIN. Don't they all use the same
system?

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

odyclub.com Search there, lot's of discussion on this. Good luck.

<dold@XReXX1999X.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
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> Frank Kerfoot <kerfoot@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I have a 1999 Odyssey which we bought new. It now has 109K miles. My son
> > has been driving it, and reported that the transmission sometimes slips.
> > I took it to the dealer and they said they got the transmission to slip,
> > the codes reported by the transmission indicated a failing clutch, and
> > that the transmission would need to be replaced. They said my car was
> > beyond the warranty (which I believe ends at 100K miles for my car) and
> > the replacement would cost $2700. So now for my questions:
>
> The clutches went out in my Dodge Durango at 90+. I thought that would
> mean a new tranny, but the clutch pack was changed for about $250.
> Maybe aftermarket has different ideas about how to fix this.
>
> You have a 100,000 mile warranty? I had a failure on a Ford at 106,000
> that I whined about and they agreed to cover the parts, I pay for labor.
> When I picked the car up, they said that the warranty had picked up the
> part, and the dealer was covering the labor.
> I had none of the routine maintenance done at the dealer.
>
> > Does this sound like the symptoms of the transmission failure for which
the
> > warranty was extended?
>
> Also on the Ford... I found that different dealers are very much different
> in their knowledge of Technical Service Bulletins (TSB). When the intake
> manifold cracked, the dealer where I had it towed knew nothing about the
> extended warranty, but my selling dealer said it was covered. I had some
> trouble with the dealer where it was, but that was eventually covered,
> although it was not a pleasant experience. I had to provide the TSB
> number. My dealer looked it up by VIN. Don't they all use the same
> system?
>
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> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5