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89 Civic automatic with 220,000 miles on it. I usually drive this
car before the
warmed engine. I don't like to sit there and wait for the engine to get
warm.
I don't mean I don't idle at all. I do idle about 3 or 4 mins.
I have some noises issue under driving with not-warmed engine such
squeak when I hit the break and some kind of whistling or whirring
sound I don't know exactly where
it comes from, but once the car reaches normal temp, these noises
disappear.
Also the car seems to run a bit of overloaded on driving with
not-warmed engine . Once the engines gets norm temp, the overloaded
feel gets disapper.

My guess on these noises.
Squeaking break = Master Cylinder is not fully operated under
not-warmed engine
Whistle or Whirring = I don't no idea.

mmdir2005@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1149491103.918996.204480@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

>
> 89 Civic automatic with 220,000 miles on it. I usually drive this
> car before the
> warmed engine. I don't like to sit there and wait for the engine to get
> warm.
> I don't mean I don't idle at all. I do idle about 3 or 4 mins.



WAY too long. 30 seconds at most.



> I have some noises issue under driving with not-warmed engine such
> squeak when I hit the break and some kind of whistling or whirring
> sound I don't know exactly where



**BRAKE** squeak and other noises can be rust, dust, aftermarket pads, or
poor istallation.




> it comes from, but once the car reaches normal temp, these noises
> disappear.



Your car is OLD. Old cars develop lots of noises from pure age. All the
sound-deadening the factory installed is old and dried out, if it hasn't
fallen off entirely. Parts work loose, buzz, rattle, hum and squeak. Seats
come loose, gaskets loosen and harden.

Noise in a 17 year-old car is usually NORMAL. Exceptions are noises that
indicate mechanical problems, and those are best diagnosed by a competent
mechanic.



> Also the car seems to run a bit of overloaded on driving with
> not-warmed engine . Once the engines gets norm temp, the overloaded
> feel gets disapper.



You mean it appears to have no power? Go easy on it until the temperature
gauge reaches full-hot: Accelerate gently, and keep the revs below 3,000.

You may just need a tune-up. At this age, neglect can cause all kinds of
problems.



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TeGGeR® wrote:
> mmdir2005@yahoo.com wrote in
> news:1149491103.918996.204480@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:
>
> >
> > 89 Civic automatic with 220,000 miles on it. I usually drive this
> > car before the
> > warmed engine. I don't like to sit there and wait for the engine to get
> > warm.
> > I don't mean I don't idle at all. I do idle about 3 or 4 mins.
>
>
>
> WAY too long. 30 seconds at most.


Too much idling is wasting gas, right.

>
>
>
> > I have some noises issue under driving with not-warmed engine such
> > squeak when I hit the break and some kind of whistling or whirring
> > sound I don't know exactly where
>
>
>
> **BRAKE** squeak and other noises can be rust, dust, aftermarket pads, or
> poor istallation.
>

I think it's rust and dust. So much dirt and grease around the left
Break where
the squeak is coming from...


>
>
>
> > it comes from, but once the car reaches normal temp, these noises
> > disappear.
>
>
>
> Your car is OLD. Old cars develop lots of noises from pure age. All the
> sound-deadening the factory installed is old and dried out, if it hasn't
> fallen off entirely. Parts work loose, buzz, rattle, hum and squeak. Seats
> come loose, gaskets loosen and harden.
>
> Noise in a 17 year-old car is usually NORMAL. Exceptions are noises that
> indicate mechanical problems, and those are best diagnosed by a competent
> mechanic.
>
>

How about 5 seconds of big noise as soon as I start drive in the
morning?
The noise is definitely has to do with Power Steering only during
turning wheel.
There is no noise if not turn the wheel. I think the power steering
is not energized
fully under cold engine temp.



>
> > Also the car seems to run a bit of overloaded on driving with
> > not-warmed engine . Once the engines gets norm temp, the overloaded
> > feel gets disapper.
>
>
>
> You mean it appears to have no power? Go easy on it until the temperature
> gauge reaches full-hot: Accelerate gently, and keep the revs below 3,000.
>

No not about power. Yes that's what I thought. I don't go higher
more than 2,500 when
the temp is not reach normal.


> You may just need a tune-up. At this age, neglect can cause all kinds of
> problems.
>
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafa

mmdir2005@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1149663760.877853.219060@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>>
>>
>> WAY too long. 30 seconds at most.
>
>
> Too much idling is wasting gas, right.



Loads the oil with fuel, too.



>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have some noises issue under driving with not-warmed engine such
>> > squeak when I hit the break and some kind of whistling or
>> > whirring sound I don't know exactly where
>>
>>
>>
>> **BRAKE** squeak and other noises can be rust, dust, aftermarket
>> pads, or poor istallation.
>>
>
> I think it's rust and dust. So much dirt and grease around the left
> Break where
> the squeak is coming from...




Grease around the BRAKE? (It's not spelt "break") Are you sure the CV joint
boot isn't split?




>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> > it comes from, but once the car reaches normal temp, these noises
>> > disappear.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your car is OLD. Old cars develop lots of noises from pure age. All
>> the sound-deadening the factory installed is old and dried out, if it
>> hasn't fallen off entirely. Parts work loose, buzz, rattle, hum and
>> squeak. Seats come loose, gaskets loosen and harden.
>>
>> Noise in a 17 year-old car is usually NORMAL. Exceptions are noises
>> that indicate mechanical problems, and those are best diagnosed by a
>> competent mechanic.
>>
>>
>
> How about 5 seconds of big noise as soon as I start drive in the
> morning?
> The noise is definitely has to do with Power Steering only during
> turning wheel.
> There is no noise if not turn the wheel. I think the power steering
> is not energized
> fully under cold engine temp.




Power steering pumps get noisy with age. This may be normal too. So long as
it doesn't leak or squeal constantly, and the belt is properly tensioned,
forget about it.


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