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Old 24 Apr 2006, 12:01 am
Gordon McGrew
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:29:31 GMT, "Domestos" <andy.mak@virgin.netspam>
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>"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> if we could get universal health care here, id be willing to pay $6/gal.

>
>It really is swings an roundabouts...
>
>We pay for our health care through national insurance taxes. We pay about
>£100 out of every £2500 into our National Health Care Service (NHS)
>
>Now I am not sure what you have to pay for health insurance in the US but
>here in England I would rather have the choice and funnel that £100/month
>into private health cover...


Most people in the US get their health insurance paid for by their
employer (or they don't have it at all.) If you lose your job, you
lose your health insurance. You can buy into a temporary plan for up
to 18 months, assuming you can afford to pay the $1000 per month
family premiums while you are unemployed.

If you are middle aged and healthy, you might be able to get decent
private medical insurance for about $1200 per month for the family.
But if you or anyone in your family has a history of medical problems,
preexisting conditions may be excluded, you may be charged exorbitant
premiums, or denied coverage altogether. If you are healthy and
insured but then get sick, expect your premiums to eventually rise
until you can't pay them anymore. Even while you have insurance, you
will still be hit with deductibles, co-pay and prescription costs
which could total thousands of dollars per year.

Once you lose insurance, you will learn first hand what it means to
live in the country with the most expensive health care in the world.
Hospitals and clinics basically double their prices over what they
need to charge so they can offer the insurance companies big
discounts. No insurance? You pay full (i.e. double) price. If you
have massed a comfortable life savings for retirement, it could easily
be wiped out by one major illness.

Still want to throw that £100/month at private health care? In the
US, that much will not even pay for the administrative costs for your
private health insurance. And no, that isn't hyperbole.


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Old 24 Apr 2006, 01:41 am
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Bob Jones wrote:

> "Domestos" <andy.mak@virgin.netspam> wrote in message
> news:d8v2g.38967$zf1.25161@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
>
>>... and gasoline is approaching $3 per gal....
>>
>>You lucky gits !
>>
>>Start thinking about when your gas starts costing you about $6.35 per US
>>gal and you have it as bad as the UK !!!
>>
>>It costs me around $70 (£40) to fill up my UK civic which is 39mpg same as
>>yours and i get about 280-300 miles out of that tank !!!
>>
>>Dom
>>

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>
> But don't you guys get pay by pounds not dollars?


How about Euros?
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Old 24 Apr 2006, 09:51 am
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> We pay for our health care through national insurance taxes. We pay about
> £100 out of every £2500 into our National Health Care Service (NHS)
>
> Now I am not sure what you have to pay for health insurance in the US but
> here in England I would rather have the choice and funnel that £100/month
> into private health cover...
>


We are way off topic here from Honda, but ...

It is a ridiculous scam here. I pay about $120 every two weeks and my
employer pays almost twice that much every two weeks also. However, in
practical terms I doubt that I have any better health care or more freedom
of choice than you do. My insurance company has "preferred providers" and
if you use these company selected providers you get max coverage, but you
still pay copays and deductibles, etc. If you need to use someone other
than a preferred provider, then you pay "big time" out of your pocket. So I
doubt I have it any better than someone who lives where they have national
healthcare.

Sid


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Old 24 Apr 2006, 02:17 pm
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Yes, civics are going for MSRP (especially the EX and the Si). I paid a
thousand over sticker for my Si, (they were asking 2). To get an idea,
go to www.8thgencivic.com

and read about what people are paying. If you are lucky, you can get it
for a couple of hundred dollars under sticker, but its a supply and
demand game right now with 2006+ civics.

Sid wrote:
> > We pay for our health care through national insurance taxes. We pay about
> > £100 out of every £2500 into our National Health Care Service (NHS)
> >
> > Now I am not sure what you have to pay for health insurance in the US but
> > here in England I would rather have the choice and funnel that £100/month
> > into private health cover...
> >

>
> We are way off topic here from Honda, but ...
>
> It is a ridiculous scam here. I pay about $120 every two weeks and my
> employer pays almost twice that much every two weeks also. However, in
> practical terms I doubt that I have any better health care or more freedom
> of choice than you do. My insurance company has "preferred providers" and
> if you use these company selected providers you get max coverage, but you
> still pay copays and deductibles, etc. If you need to use someone other
> than a preferred provider, then you pay "big time" out of your pocket. So I
> doubt I have it any better than someone who lives where they have national
> healthcare.
>
> Sid


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