Honda Car Forum

Hello,
I used to go to the Honda dealer to have the oil changes,
but now have considered ogoing to this Goodyear wood & fullterton
place in Georgia that is AAA rated.

These guys use Kendall motor oil. I believe the dealer
uses a different brand, pennzoil (spelling?).

Are these comparable?

Also, do I need to have a Honda brand air filter or would other
brands be ok?

THANKS

"ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I used to go to the Honda dealer to have the oil changes,
> but now have considered ogoing to this Goodyear wood & fullterton
> place in Georgia that is AAA rated.
>
> These guys use Kendall motor oil. I believe the dealer
> uses a different brand, pennzoil (spelling?).
>
> Are these comparable?
>
> Also, do I need to have a Honda brand air filter or would other
> brands be ok?
>

Many oil change places use Kendall, probably because they are cheap in
bulks. Dealers could use anything. My personal preference is Castrol GTX in
bottles.

No, you do not have to use Honda brand air filters unless you are just
obsessed about OEM parts. If your car is still under warranty, it is safer
to use Honda parts though.

Kendall is reeeeal cheap stuff, not that it's bad. ConocoPhillips is a
large energy company

But the local Honda dealer uses bulk Castrol and advertised as such.

If I had an oil change and kendall was put in, I wouldn't lose sleep
over it. But you can do better over the long run, in terms of assurred
low wear and sludge formation. I suggest a steady diet of Pennzoil,
Pennzoil Platinum synthetic, Mobil 1 synthetic, Chevron, or Motorcraft.
These oils are proven to be high quality over the long run. See oil
analysis results at: www.bobistheoilguy.com

"Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in message
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>
> "ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
> news:1143498854.932318.190810@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello,
>> I used to go to the Honda dealer to have the oil changes,
>> but now have considered ogoing to this Goodyear wood & fullterton
>> place in Georgia that is AAA rated.
>>
>> These guys use Kendall motor oil. I believe the dealer
>> uses a different brand, pennzoil (spelling?).
>>
>> Are these comparable?
>>
>> Also, do I need to have a Honda brand air filter or would other
>> brands be ok?
>>
>
> Many oil change places use Kendall, probably because they are cheap in
> bulks. Dealers could use anything. My personal preference is Castrol GTX
> in bottles.
> [snip]

Your taste in motor oil is impeccable. Don't forget to change the 36-cent
drain plug washer.

jmattis@attglobal.net wrote:
> If I had an oil change and kendall was put in, I wouldn't lose sleep
> over it. But you can do better over the long run, in terms of assurred
> low wear and sludge formation. I suggest a steady diet of Pennzoil,
> Pennzoil Platinum synthetic, Mobil 1 synthetic, Chevron, or Motorcraft.
> These oils are proven to be high quality over the long run. See oil
> analysis results at: www.bobistheoilguy.com
>
while i think bob means well, spark analysis cannot give /any/
information on the organic content of oils, only the metallic. hence,
there's no real info on base stock, viscosity modifiers, seal
conditioners, detergents, antioxidants, etc.

i really have a problem by this spark analysis based endorsement of
motorcraft. so what if the metallics are present in the same quantities
as other oils? my hands-on real life experience is that motorcraft is
utter garbage. it makes honda oil seals leak like sieves and the engine
clatter like a bag of loose gonads. reverting to castrol gtx cured my
oil leaks and quietened the engine down completely.

jim beam wrote:
> i really have a problem by this spark analysis based endorsement of
> motorcraft. so what if the metallics are present in the same quantities
> as other oils? my hands-on real life experience is that motorcraft is
> utter garbage. it makes honda oil seals leak like sieves and the engine
> clatter like a bag of loose gonads. reverting to castrol gtx cured my
> oil leaks and quietened the engine down completely.

i wonder who makes motorcraft oil... cant be ford, of course.

That's interesting. How many miles on the Honda when Motorcraft caused
leaks?

jim beam wrote:
>
> jmattis@attglobal.net wrote:
> > If I had an oil change and kendall was put in, I wouldn't lose sleep
> > over it. But you can do better over the long run, in terms of assurred
> > low wear and sludge formation. I suggest a steady diet of Pennzoil,
> > Pennzoil Platinum synthetic, Mobil 1 synthetic, Chevron, or Motorcraft.
> > These oils are proven to be high quality over the long run. See oil
> > analysis results at: www.bobistheoilguy.com
> >
> while i think bob means well, spark analysis cannot give /any/
> information on the organic content of oils, only the metallic. hence,
> there's no real info on base stock, viscosity modifiers, seal
> conditioners, detergents, antioxidants, etc.
>
> i really have a problem by this spark analysis based endorsement of
> motorcraft. so what if the metallics are present in the same quantities
> as other oils? my hands-on real life experience is that motorcraft is
> utter garbage. it makes honda oil seals leak like sieves and the engine
> clatter like a bag of loose gonads. reverting to castrol gtx cured my
> oil leaks and quietened the engine down completely.


I use Castrol in most of my vintage tin and oil consumption is half of
that of major brands such as havoline, Quaker State/Penzoil, etc. The
only other brand that in my view is credible is Valvoline. Some
individuals swear by Shell Rotella.

Personally, I think that dino oil is fine for use in internal combustion
engines provided timely oil changes take place. 2,500 miles for
mediocre stuff such as Quaker State etc and as much as 5K for Castrol.

JT

"mpwilliams" <m.p.williams@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in message
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>>
>> "ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
>> news:1143498854.932318.190810@i39g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hello,
>>> I used to go to the Honda dealer to have the oil changes,
>>> but now have considered ogoing to this Goodyear wood & fullterton
>>> place in Georgia that is AAA rated.
>>>
>>> These guys use Kendall motor oil. I believe the dealer
>>> uses a different brand, pennzoil (spelling?).
>>>
>>> Are these comparable?
>>>
>>> Also, do I need to have a Honda brand air filter or would other
>>> brands be ok?
>>>
>>
>> Many oil change places use Kendall, probably because they are cheap in
>> bulks. Dealers could use anything. My personal preference is Castrol GTX
>> in bottles.
>> [snip]
>
> Your taste in motor oil is impeccable. Don't forget to change the 36-cent
> drain plug washer.
>

I have already did, many times.