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I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
Are they posted on another board?

We bought an accord hybrid 3 months ago. It is my wife's car. I drove it
last night. I seldom drive it. It was cold during warm up it rev's quite
high. Backing out of the garage, you had to be very careful and keep the
foot heavy on the brakes. I also have a new Odyssey. Cold starts and
backing out of the garage is not an issue. I am going to get the Accord
checked but I suspect they will say it is controlled by computer and that is
the way they all are.


The Accord hybrid is a 2005. The Odyssey a 2006. The only thing I don't
like about the minivan is the radio. It sucks.


"ecarecar" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> Are they posted on another board?

In article <TKudnTWh57bptZPZRVn-sw@centurytel.net>, ecarecar@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
>Are they posted on another board?

It is just a matter of sales numbers. Not that many hybrids have been sold,
so not too many folks have questions to post.
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Alex

Check this.
http://www.greenhybrid.com/

"ecarecar" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> Are they posted on another board?

We dont have many problems with them at the dealership where i work.
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> We bought an accord hybrid 3 months ago. It is my wife's car. I drove it
> last night. I seldom drive it. It was cold during warm up it rev's quite
> high. Backing out of the garage, you had to be very careful and keep the
> foot heavy on the brakes. I also have a new Odyssey. Cold starts and
> backing out of the garage is not an issue. I am going to get the Accord
> checked but I suspect they will say it is controlled by computer and that
> is the way they all are.
>
>
> The Accord hybrid is a 2005. The Odyssey a 2006. The only thing I don't
> like about the minivan is the radio. It sucks.
>
>
> "ecarecar" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:TKudnTWh57bptZPZRVn-sw@centurytel.net...
>>I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
>> Are they posted on another board?
>
>

In article <TKudnTWh57bptZPZRVn-sw@centurytel.net>,
ecarecar <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> Are they posted on another board?

My 05 Accord Hybrid has been a bummer. It averages 29 MPG, stumbles and
shakes during idle, jerks when accelerating and braking, has a 1-2
second downshift lag, the engine light blinked until a software upgrade,
the lugnuts on one wheel broke, the tire pump sometimes shorts and blows
fuses, it sometimes stumbles when the engine comes out of idle-stop,
climate control is fussy, radio sucks, the electronic noise cancellation
system is better off disabled, and the electric system that makes this
car a hybrid does virtually nothing.

Overall the car feels like an unrefined hack to get a "Hybrid" label.
It's not the elegance typical of Honda cars; you'd think it was a Ford.
The milage increases come from Honda's usual engine tricks while the
electrical system does little more than be a large virtual flywheel.
When the electrical system is active, the car tends to jerk and surge.

I've come very close to starting the lemon law process in the past
because the blinking engine malfunction light couldn't be fixed for
nearly a year. I might start up the lemon law process still based on
the number of hours my car has spent in shops for repairs. Honda techs
don't know how to work on the Hybrids so even the most trivial repair
requires one or two full days in the shop. Technicians are not willing
to troubleshoot problems that would be unacceptable in any other $30000
USD car.


What does work is the basic Accord systems. Traction control works
great in snow, the interior is comfortable, and the build is mostly
solid.

In article
<mcmurtri-FC3E12.00013814032006@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Kevin
McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> In article <TKudnTWh57bptZPZRVn-sw@centurytel.net>,
> ecarecar <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> > Are they posted on another board?
>
> My 05 Accord Hybrid has been a bummer. It averages 29 MPG, stumbles and
> shakes during idle, jerks when accelerating and braking, has a 1-2
> second downshift lag, the engine light blinked until a software upgrade,
> the lugnuts on one wheel broke, the tire pump sometimes shorts and blows
> fuses, it sometimes stumbles when the engine comes out of idle-stop,
> climate control is fussy, radio sucks, the electronic noise cancellation
> system is better off disabled, and the electric system that makes this
> car a hybrid does virtually nothing.
>
> Overall the car feels like an unrefined hack to get a "Hybrid" label.
> It's not the elegance typical of Honda cars; you'd think it was a Ford.
> The milage increases come from Honda's usual engine tricks while the
> electrical system does little more than be a large virtual flywheel.
> When the electrical system is active, the car tends to jerk and surge.
>
> I've come very close to starting the lemon law process in the past
> because the blinking engine malfunction light couldn't be fixed for
> nearly a year. I might start up the lemon law process still based on
> the number of hours my car has spent in shops for repairs. Honda techs
> don't know how to work on the Hybrids so even the most trivial repair
> requires one or two full days in the shop. Technicians are not willing
> to troubleshoot problems that would be unacceptable in any other $30000
> USD car.
>
>
> What does work is the basic Accord systems. Traction control works
> great in snow, the interior is comfortable, and the build is mostly
> solid.

I advise you to keep track of the factory related defects and have them
repaired while the vehicle is still under warranty. If you plan to keep
the car for many years--consider a 100,000 warranty. It's my understanding
that it costs over a thousand dollars to replace the batteries. If the
batteries are guaranteed for 100,000 miles or more--don't waste your money
on the extended warranty.

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ecarecar <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> Are they posted on another board?

Which one? Civic? Insight? Accord?

I had an SRS warning light come on in my 2003 Civic Hybrid when it was
about a month old. Three years and 60,000 miles later, it's been oil
changes and a set of tires.

The postings here go in bursts. Someone asks a question, FanJet says
hybrids are worthless, and then it dies off again.

You could do a google search here for honda hybrid to get some older
reading material, but I think the Honda Civic Hybrid is so normal that the
only posts of value are how to hook up an MP3 player.

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef86546/ has some postings of
interest, but "Honda Civic Hybrid" has dropped way off in the number of
posts.

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In article <dv7pj0$n30$1@blue.rahul.net>, dold@XReXXProbl.usenet.us.com wrote:

> ecarecar <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I don't see many questions about Honda hybrids.
> > Are they posted on another board?
>
> Which one? Civic? Insight? Accord?
>
> I had an SRS warning light come on in my 2003 Civic Hybrid when it was
> about a month old. Three years and 60,000 miles later, it's been oil
> changes and a set of tires.
>
> The postings here go in bursts. Someone asks a question, FanJet says
> hybrids are worthless, and then it dies off again.
>
> You could do a google search here for honda hybrid to get some older
> reading material, but I think the Honda Civic Hybrid is so normal that the
> only posts of value are how to hook up an MP3 player.
>
> http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef86546/ has some postings of
> interest, but "Honda Civic Hybrid" has dropped way off in the number of
> posts.

I read an excellent article in a car magazine several months ago about
"plug in hybrids". One of the posters to this newsgroup was able to make
his Honda Civic Hybrid a "plug in Hybrid". It appears to be a great idea.
I saw a recent post indicating that someone has an Accord Hybrid. The
poster indicated that it came from the factory with lots of defects. It's
my opinion that hybrids are a great investment--but only if you do lots of
ciy driving. If you do most of your driving outside of cities--they are a
bad investment.
Jason

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Jason <jason@nospam.com> wrote:
> "plug in hybrids". One of the posters to this newsgroup was able to make
> his Honda Civic Hybrid a "plug in Hybrid". It appears to be a great idea.

The Honda hybrids would not be good candidates for plug-in conversion. The
engine has to turn all the time, since it is mated directly to the IMA.

The Ford Escape/Toyota Prius style of "full hybrid" doesn't have to turn
the engine to drive the vehicle, and have already been converted to
plug-in, although the price is a little high, and voids warranty, something
to consider if you live in California, where hybrids come with 150,000 mile
warranty.

> my opinion that hybrids are a great investment--but only if you do lots of
> ciy driving. If you do most of your driving outside of cities--they are a

Again, a confusion between the Prius and the Civic.
The Prius is better in the city, but my Honda gets 50+ mpg on the highway
in real use.

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