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Old 26 Feb 2006, 03:12 pm
ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com
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Default Question about EVAP system (ODB message)

I have a '99 Accord (4-cyl, 5-speed), and the "Check Engine Light" came
on. I had Auto Zone use their ODB diagnostic machine, and got message
"P1457," which, according to the Interweb means: "Leak Detected In EVAP
Control System" The gentleman at Auto Zone said that usually just
meant a loose or faulty gas cap. Can anybody confirm this? It's not
that I don't trust the guy at Auto Zone, it's just... OK, that's
exactly what it is.

Also, is the remedy for this, assuming my gas cap is fine, to simply
reset the light? How do I do that? I've heard different things from
different people.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 26 Feb 2006, 06:23 pm
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Default Re: Question about EVAP system (ODB message)

Consider it confirmed. A loose (or more accurately, not properly tightened)
gas cap will set off this CEL code. Very common. Other things can set it
off, too, but this is one of the first you want to eliminate.

Do you have an owner's manual? (I'm not trying to be smart. Some folks buy
their Hondas used and don't get an owner's manual with it.) It should say
how to reset the CEL, or if it does not, see
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html#engelectrical .

<ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com> wrote
>I have a '99 Accord (4-cyl, 5-speed), and the "Check Engine Light" came
> on. I had Auto Zone use their ODB diagnostic machine, and got message
> "P1457," which, according to the Interweb means: "Leak Detected In EVAP
> Control System" The gentleman at Auto Zone said that usually just
> meant a loose or faulty gas cap. Can anybody confirm this? It's not
> that I don't trust the guy at Auto Zone, it's just... OK, that's
> exactly what it is.
>
> Also, is the remedy for this, assuming my gas cap is fine, to simply
> reset the light? How do I do that? I've heard different things from
> different people.



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Old 26 Feb 2006, 08:13 pm
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Default Re: Question about EVAP system (ODB message)

ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a '99 Accord (4-cyl, 5-speed), and the "Check Engine Light" came
> on. I had Auto Zone use their ODB diagnostic machine, and got message
> "P1457," which, according to the Interweb means: "Leak Detected In EVAP
> Control System" The gentleman at Auto Zone said that usually just
> meant a loose or faulty gas cap. Can anybody confirm this? It's not


yes, i can.

> that I don't trust the guy at Auto Zone, it's just... OK, that's
> exactly what it is.


at least ya arent payin for the advice.
>
> Also, is the remedy for this, assuming my gas cap is fine, to simply
> reset the light? How do I do that? I've heard different things from
> different people.


they shouldve reset the light for you. my scanner has a feature to clear
the codes/reset the light.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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Old 27 Feb 2006, 08:03 am
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"ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> I have a '99 Accord (4-cyl, 5-speed), and the "Check Engine Light" came
> on. I had Auto Zone use their ODB diagnostic machine, and got message
> "P1457," which, according to the Interweb means: "Leak Detected In EVAP
> Control System" The gentleman at Auto Zone said that usually just
> meant a loose or faulty gas cap. Can anybody confirm this? It's not
> that I don't trust the guy at Auto Zone, it's just... OK, that's
> exactly what it is.
>
> Also, is the remedy for this, assuming my gas cap is fine, to simply
> reset the light? How do I do that? I've heard different things from
> different people.
>
> Thanks in advance.


------------------

The manual says that three 'trips' will reset the light if it's caused
by the gas cap (after you correct the fault). That means the engine has
to heat up, then cool down three times.

'Curly'
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 08:48 am
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"ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com" <ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1140984771.611378.201250@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com:

> I have a '99 Accord (4-cyl, 5-speed), and the "Check Engine Light" came
> on. I had Auto Zone use their ODB diagnostic machine, and got message
> "P1457," which, according to the Interweb means: "Leak Detected In EVAP
> Control System" The gentleman at Auto Zone said that usually just
> meant a loose or faulty gas cap.




It's more than likely the gas cap.



> Can anybody confirm this? It's not
> that I don't trust the guy at Auto Zone, it's just... OK, that's
> exactly what it is.
>
> Also, is the remedy for this, assuming my gas cap is fine, to simply
> reset the light? How do I do that? I've heard different things from
> different people.



Three *complete* warm-ups and cooldowns will reset the light if the error
does not recur.




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Old 27 Feb 2006, 09:11 am
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Default Re: Question about EVAP system (ODB message)

Thanks for the tips. Does that mean that if the light doesn't turn off
after three trips, it's a recurring problem?

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"ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com" <ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1141049461.241360.126190@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com:

> Thanks for the tips. Does that mean that if the light doesn't turn off
> after three trips, it's a recurring problem?
>
>



Then replace the gas cap.

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Old 27 Feb 2006, 10:10 pm
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On 27 Feb 2006 15:08:15 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>"ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com" <ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:1141049461.241360.126190@p10g2000cwp.googleg roups.com:
>
>> Thanks for the tips. Does that mean that if the light doesn't turn off
>> after three trips, it's a recurring problem?
>>
>>

>
>
>Then replace the gas cap.



there are two codes for evap leaks. they are P01456 and P01457. As a
general rule the P01456 code covers from the fuel tank to the cap.
The P01457 goes from the tank to the engine, in your case it may be
an FTP sensor, two way valve, canister shut valve or purge control
solenoid.
Good luck with that
Chip
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Old 27 Feb 2006, 10:41 pm
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chip <hs4797@brevard.net> wrote in
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> On 27 Feb 2006 15:08:15 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>>"ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com" <ryan.g.williamson@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:1141049461.241360.126190@p10g2000cwp.google groups.com:
>>
>>> Thanks for the tips. Does that mean that if the light doesn't turn off
>>> after three trips, it's a recurring problem?
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>Then replace the gas cap.

>
>
> there are two codes for evap leaks. they are P01456 and P01457. As a
> general rule the P01456 code covers from the fuel tank to the cap.
> The P01457 goes from the tank to the engine, in your case it may be
> an FTP sensor, two way valve, canister shut valve or purge control
> solenoid.
>




Chip is right. My own FAQ even says so. I should have checked first before
relying on my porous memory.

This list:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/error....html#enhanced
says the P1456/1457 are as follows:
* P1456 Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) Control System Leakage
(Fuel Tank System)
* P1457 Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) Control System Leakage
(EVAP Canister System)




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Old 28 Feb 2006, 10:17 am
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Default Re: Question about EVAP system (ODB message)

Thanks for the clarification. I called the Honda dealer near me, and
they said it could be a) the gas cap, b) the EVAP canisters c) gas
spillage into the neck of the fuel system.

He said to give it as many as 10-12 trips to see if it resets, and if
not, then to look into it further.

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