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Old 14 Feb 2006, 08:48 pm
Arif Khokar
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Default Re: Need ways to start a car with a dead battery.- 92 Civic Auto.

Pooh Bear wrote:
[headlamp reminder chime]
> Many modern cars do this anyway.


The '84 Prelude I used to drive had this feature. I wonder why a '92
Civic wouldn't.
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Old 14 Feb 2006, 08:49 pm
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ed wrote:

> Battery switch.................


If the OP could remember the use of switches we wouldn't even be having this
discussion.

Graham

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Old 14 Feb 2006, 08:52 pm
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In article <43F28857.F7198C72@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Matthew Russotto wrote:
>
>> In article <43F20164.8F3CEE6E@sympatico.ca>,
>> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >That 'used' to work before computers and electric fuel pumps, but I
>> >found out the hard way that push starting a modern vehicle with a dead
>> >battery is only good for exercise.

>>
>> It has less to do with the computer and fuel pump than the alternator
>> (rather than generator). If the battery is so flat you can't get the
>> alternator field energized, you won't get spark, so you'll just flood
>> a carbeurated car trying.

>
>Bollocks !
>
>The alternator doesn't come into play *unitil the engine starts*.


Under NORMAL conditions, yes. When you're push-starting, not so;
you're running the car off the alternator.



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Old 14 Feb 2006, 08:53 pm
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Default Re: Need ways to start a car with a dead battery.- 92 Civic Auto.

Pooh Bear wrote:
> ed wrote:
>
> > Battery switch.................

>
> If the OP could remember the use of switches we wouldn't even be having this
> discussion.

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Old 14 Feb 2006, 09:20 pm
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Default Re: Need ways to start a car with a dead battery.- 92 Civic Auto.



Arif Khokar wrote:

> Pooh Bear wrote:
> [headlamp reminder chime]
> > Many modern cars do this anyway.

>
> The '84 Prelude I used to drive had this feature. I wonder why a '92
> Civic wouldn't.


It's a puzzle.

Graham


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Old 14 Feb 2006, 09:35 pm
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Default Re: Need ways to start a car with a dead battery.- 92 Civic Auto.

In article <43F28FE4.48B13419@hotmail.com>,
Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Arif Khokar wrote:
>
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> > [headlamp reminder chime]
> > > Many modern cars do this anyway.

> >
> > The '84 Prelude I used to drive had this feature. I wonder why a '92
> > Civic wouldn't.

>
> It's a puzzle.
>
> Graham
>
>


Less of a puzzle when one notices some of the posts the OP made in a few
other newsgroups recently. All of them have a distinct aroma of "let's
see how many responses we can trigger with a question that looks at
least semi-real at first glance, but upon examination, is obviously
bogus".

As in, I think it might be time to hang out the "we have been trolled"
sign...

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Old 14 Feb 2006, 10:09 pm
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Mike Romain wrote:

> The 'obvious abuse' is what the OP stated, leaving the lights and/or
> stereo on.


I left my parking lights on overnight. Didn't think it would
drain the battery down that much, but it did. The power door
locks barely functioned, but there wasn't enough juice to get
the starter going.

Fortunately the manager where I was staying was used to
battery problems in his own vehicle and had one of those jump
starter kits. As soon as I got home I looked into getting
one for myself. They typically provide a "boost" but most
can't compensate for a completely drained battery. There are
more powerful units that might. Some come with air pumps and/
or power inverters.

I ordered a couple of these from Amazon. $39.95 each with
free ground shipping. This particular one is out of stock,
but they have different manufacturers/models. You can
probably find similar boxes at Wal-Mart or auto supply
stores.

<http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00030BFJW>
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Old 14 Feb 2006, 10:42 pm
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 03:09:59 GMT, y_p_w <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> The 'obvious abuse' is what the OP stated, leaving the lights and/or
>> stereo on.

>
>I left my parking lights on overnight. Didn't think it would
>drain the battery down that much, but it did. The power door
>locks barely functioned, but there wasn't enough juice to get
>the starter going.
>
>Fortunately the manager where I was staying was used to
>battery problems in his own vehicle and had one of those jump
>starter kits. As soon as I got home I looked into getting
>one for myself. They typically provide a "boost" but most
>can't compensate for a completely drained battery. There are
>more powerful units that might. Some come with air pumps and/
>or power inverters.
>
>I ordered a couple of these from Amazon. $39.95 each with
>free ground shipping. This particular one is out of stock,
>but they have different manufacturers/models. You can
>probably find similar boxes at Wal-Mart or auto supply
>stores.
>
><http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00030BFJW>


I have that exact same model -also-. Call me paranoid.

Lg

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Old 14 Feb 2006, 11:02 pm
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"y_p_w" <y_p_w@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bYwIf.557$VI6.543@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> The 'obvious abuse' is what the OP stated, leaving the lights and/or
>> stereo on.

>
> I ordered a couple of these from Amazon. $39.95 each with
> free ground shipping. This particular one is out of stock,
> but they have different manufacturers/models. You can
> probably find similar boxes at Wal-Mart or auto supply
> stores.
>
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00030BFJW>


I can't vouch for it, just sharing the link...
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/stor...&item=TOL10130


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Old 14 Feb 2006, 11:35 pm
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:50:49 GMT, "Sam Nickaby" <SamN@has.none> wrote:

>I have been thinking of a good way to prevent stranding
>myself from a dead battery. It happened twice. Once at a
>beach from leaving my lights on. The other was at a college
>campus which the stereo and the dome light ran down the
>battery. Unlike the beach, the college campus have lots of
>helpful students with beat up cars that have jumper cables.
>Now, I have a new idea. Once my battery runs dry, I
>remove my alternator belt and wrap a rope around the
>alternator pulley. I then pull the rope so it'll turn 10
>revolutions per pull. I keep doing this for about 20 times.
>
>What is the possibility that this will supply enough charge
>to start the car. If not, can somebody think of a clever idea
>to start an automatic?


Buy one of these.

http://www.baproducts.com/sm831.htm

If it happens to work, let me know.

Dave
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