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My 2002 Accord SE 4cyl is using up 1L oil every 3000Km. The Honda dealer
says that is normal. My previous cars never uses that much oil, and I never
had to top up oil between changes of 8000Km. Any input.

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"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> My 2002 Accord SE 4cyl is using up 1L oil every 3000Km. The Honda
> dealer says that is normal. My previous cars never uses that much
> oil, and I never had to top up oil between changes of 8000Km. Any
> input.
>



Are you sure that's your actual consumption? That's terribly low for your
year, unless you've been neglecting your oil changes.

Measure it this way:
1) With car COLD, having sat overnight, without starting it, pull dipstick
and make note of the reading.
2) Drive car 1,000 miles (or 2,000km, or some other set distance).
3) Repeat from #1.

Distance between the marks is 1L, or 1 US qt plus one ounce.

Car must be in exactly the same position AND on the same slope for both
measurements.

Do NOT check your oil at the gas station. Do NOT check it warm one time
then cold the other. Consistency is important.

I'll bet you're using quite a lot less than you think you are. If you are
in fact using oil that quickly, inspect the PCV system, especially the
breather pipe and the throttle body.

It goes without saying, of course, that you'd also inspect for external
leaks...

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TeGGeR® wrote:
> "Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in
> newsGSGf.473012$2k.139711@pd7tw1no:
>
>
>>My 2002 Accord SE 4cyl is using up 1L oil every 3000Km. The Honda
>>dealer says that is normal. My previous cars never uses that much
>>oil, and I never had to top up oil between changes of 8000Km. Any
>>input.
>>
>
>
>
>
> Are you sure that's your actual consumption? That's terribly low for your
> year, unless you've been neglecting your oil changes.
>
> Measure it this way:
> 1) With car COLD, having sat overnight, without starting it, pull dipstick
> and make note of the reading.
> 2) Drive car 1,000 miles (or 2,000km, or some other set distance).
> 3) Repeat from #1.
>
> Distance between the marks is 1L, or 1 US qt plus one ounce.
>
> Car must be in exactly the same position AND on the same slope for both
> measurements.
>
> Do NOT check your oil at the gas station. Do NOT check it warm one time
> then cold the other. Consistency is important.
>
> I'll bet you're using quite a lot less than you think you are. If you are
> in fact using oil that quickly, inspect the PCV system, especially the
> breather pipe and the throttle body.
>
> It goes without saying, of course, that you'd also inspect for external
> leaks...
>
oil quality is important too.

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
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> TeGGeR® wrote:

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>>
>> It goes without saying, of course, that you'd also inspect for
>> external leaks...
>>
> oil quality is important too.
>


Well sure. You buy Goat Brand from China and all bets are off.

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I have been following this very closely. There were no smoke, fumes, or
leaks. I use 5W20 and change oil at the dealer as scheduled. The car runs
well otherwise. Where is the PCV and what should I check?

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> "Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>> My 2002 Accord SE 4cyl is using up 1L oil every 3000Km. The Honda
>> dealer says that is normal. My previous cars never uses that much
>> oil, and I never had to top up oil between changes of 8000Km. Any
>> input.
>>
>
>
>
> Are you sure that's your actual consumption? That's terribly low for your
> year, unless you've been neglecting your oil changes.
>
> Measure it this way:
> 1) With car COLD, having sat overnight, without starting it, pull dipstick
> and make note of the reading.
> 2) Drive car 1,000 miles (or 2,000km, or some other set distance).
> 3) Repeat from #1.
>
> Distance between the marks is 1L, or 1 US qt plus one ounce.
>
> Car must be in exactly the same position AND on the same slope for both
> measurements.
>
> Do NOT check your oil at the gas station. Do NOT check it warm one time
> then cold the other. Consistency is important.
>
> I'll bet you're using quite a lot less than you think you are. If you are
> in fact using oil that quickly, inspect the PCV system, especially the
> breather pipe and the throttle body.
>
> It goes without saying, of course, that you'd also inspect for external
> leaks...
>
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>
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Shaw news wrote:
>
> I have been following this very closely. There were no smoke, fumes, or
> leaks. I use 5W20 and change oil at the dealer as scheduled. The car runs
> well otherwise. Where is the PCV and what should I check?

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The PCV can be quickly found at google.com. If you stick PDF in the
search, you might get a nice picture.
It's a valve that regulates how much air is drawn out of the crankcase,
to be burned in the engine. If it sticks open, is sucks your oil vapor
out (invisibly) and burns it wholesale. It can wreck your catalytic
converter, mess up your fuel consumption, and your idle. Use Honda
parts. Cheap investment for something so important.

'Curly'

Thanks, found the testing method from the Helm manual. Will check it next.
BTW, what is an acceptable oil consumption rate.

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"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Shaw news wrote:
> >
> > I have been following this very closely. There were no smoke, fumes, or
> > leaks. I use 5W20 and change oil at the dealer as scheduled. The car
runs
> > well otherwise. Where is the PCV and what should I check?
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> The PCV can be quickly found at google.com. If you stick PDF in the
> search, you might get a nice picture.
> It's a valve that regulates how much air is drawn out of the crankcase,
> to be burned in the engine. If it sticks open, is sucks your oil vapor
> out (invisibly) and burns it wholesale. It can wreck your catalytic
> converter, mess up your fuel consumption, and your idle. Use Honda
> parts. Cheap investment for something so important.
>
> 'Curly'

"Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Thanks, found the testing method from the Helm manual. Will check it
> next. BTW, what is an acceptable oil consumption rate.
>


What's your odometer reading? Assuming average driving of 15K per year,
you're up to about 60K. Oil consumption at that point ought to be approx 8K
miles per quart.

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can have a compression test done too


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I have brought this to the attention of the Honda dealer several times, but
they just shrugged it off as normal. What should one do? The car is still
under warranty. I certainly don't want to pay the dealer to test
compression just for them to say "it is within normal limits and thank you".
Perhaps move to thicker oil like 10W30? The car only has 76k Km only.

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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Don Lee" <NOSPAMddlee10@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> > Thanks, found the testing method from the Helm manual. Will check it
> > next. BTW, what is an acceptable oil consumption rate.
> >
>
>
> What's your odometer reading? Assuming average driving of 15K per year,
> you're up to about 60K. Oil consumption at that point ought to be approx
8K
> miles per quart.
>
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