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Hello All;


I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5 speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my 16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again. Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always fully release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless she is shifting.

I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven in the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder for the 03-06 Accord.

Thank you;


Richard

"Skipper" <bluejays_99@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:7X8Gf.16831$1e5.410379@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
Hello All;


I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5 speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my 16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again. Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always fully release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless she is shifting.

I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven in the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder for the 03-06 Accord.

Thank you;


Richard

Highly unusual. Perhaps it is a problem with that model. I have an 01 Prelude 5spd with 63k and no problems with the clutch master or slave leaking. The same is true for our 03 Civic LX 5 spd at 33k. The 99 Accord I had before also never has any problems with the clutch hydraulics.

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Hello All;


I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5 speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my 16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again. Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always fully release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless she is shifting.

I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven in the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder for the 03-06 Accord.

Thank you;


Richard

Highly unusual. Perhaps it is a problem with that model. I have an 01 Prelude 5spd with 63k and no problems with the clutch master or slave leaking. The same is true for our 03 Civic LX 5 spd at 33k. The 99 Accord I had before also never has any problems with the clutch hydraulics.




Hi Richard,

I have an 04 ex-l with the 5sp and have not had this issue with the clutch, it still shifts as smooth and quiet as the first day. I am good friends with the mechanic at our honda dealership here in town and he did a check for me and there are no TSB's or known issues with the clutch or associated systems in this model of accord. They have not had to do any clutch related work on any of the 03-06 accords to date.

How are things in North Bay, I live in eastern Ontario and used to go to North Bay all the time when I worked with the Ministry of Natural Resources.

Cheers,

Glynn

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:12:22 -0500, "Skipper"
<bluejays_99@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Hello All;
>
>
>I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5 speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my 16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again. Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always fully release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless she is shifting.
>
>I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven in the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder for the 03-06 Accord.
>
>Thank you;
>
>
>Richard
Giving the benefit of the doubt on what looks a bit like a troll.

When a clutch master cylinder (or slave cylinder) fails it fails in a
manner whereby the clutch is engaged all the time and will not
disengage when the pedal is pressed. The way you or your wife drives
has nothing to do with its longevity, other than the number of times
it is cycled. Its failure will not cause a grinder noise at the top
of the pedal stroke unless you are talking about shifting with a bad
cylinder in which case the gears would grind and you would not be able
to enter first gear when fully stopped. Or unless your clutch
pedal/bracket is in a bind in some manner.

Premature failure of the clutch hydraulic system could only be caused
by initially faulty components or a foreign substance in the
hydraulics that wears out the piston packing and allows the hydraulic
fluid to bypass.

My two Hondas both had failures of the clutch master at approximately
ten years and well over 100,000 miles. Your experience is not normal.
I would ask to see the removed offending component.

Frank

Well, I brought my car to the dealiership and they found nothing wrong with
the clutch or drivetrain or master clutch cylinder. I must say that they do
go out of their way to give me quality service at this dealership. This is
my 2nd car from the North Honda dealership and unless something disastrous
happens, I will continue to purchase/lease my cars from there.



Richard


"Frank Boettcher" <fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:12:22 -0500, "Skipper"
> <bluejays_99@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hello All;
>>
>>
>>I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5
>>speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed
>>under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a
>>grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed
>>and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone
>>else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my
>>16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again.
>>Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always fully
>>release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of
>>that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless
>>she is shifting.
>>
>>I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and
>>besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven in
>>the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I
>>don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I
>>need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says
>>that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder
>>for the 03-06 Accord.
>>
>>Thank you;
>>
>>
>>Richard
> Giving the benefit of the doubt on what looks a bit like a troll.
>
> When a clutch master cylinder (or slave cylinder) fails it fails in a
> manner whereby the clutch is engaged all the time and will not
> disengage when the pedal is pressed. The way you or your wife drives
> has nothing to do with its longevity, other than the number of times
> it is cycled. Its failure will not cause a grinder noise at the top
> of the pedal stroke unless you are talking about shifting with a bad
> cylinder in which case the gears would grind and you would not be able
> to enter first gear when fully stopped. Or unless your clutch
> pedal/bracket is in a bind in some manner.
>
> Premature failure of the clutch hydraulic system could only be caused
> by initially faulty components or a foreign substance in the
> hydraulics that wears out the piston packing and allows the hydraulic
> fluid to bypass.
>
> My two Hondas both had failures of the clutch master at approximately
> ten years and well over 100,000 miles. Your experience is not normal.
> I would ask to see the removed offending component.
>
> Frank

I had a similar experience with my 92 Accord. Took me 2-3 trips to the
dealer and drove with the head mechanic before he could catch the noise and
replaced the clutch under warranty. Of course, at the beginning, they said
everything was normal and blame the noise I heard from everything including
the thick floor mats. Good luck.

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"Skipper" <bluejays_99@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:sedHf.5457$J%6.391698@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> Well, I brought my car to the dealiership and they found nothing wrong
with
> the clutch or drivetrain or master clutch cylinder. I must say that they
do
> go out of their way to give me quality service at this dealership. This
is
> my 2nd car from the North Honda dealership and unless something disastrous
> happens, I will continue to purchase/lease my cars from there.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> "Frank Boettcher" <fboettcher@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:sacpu11eoqi8nhgrk577tmle22bq7ljmn3@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 17:12:22 -0500, "Skipper"
> > <bluejays_99@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>Hello All;
> >>
> >>
> >>I've recently had my master clutch cylinder replace on my 05 4 cyl (5
> >>speed manual) of course Accord LX with about 12 000km. This was changed
> >>under warranty, I brought my car in because I could hear a kind of a
> >>grinder sound when the clutch was near the top. Now a month has passed
> >>and it's starting to do the same thing but not all the time. Has anyone
> >>else with an 03-06 Accord 5 speed 4 cyl had the same problem? I have my
> >>16 000km service coming up in 3 days so I will get it looked at again.
> >>Can the way I drive make the master clutch cylinder break? I always
fully
> >>release the clutch and never have my foot on it, I always make sure of
> >>that, I give my wife heck if her foot is anywhere near the clutch unless
> >>she is shifting.
> >>
> >>I live in North Bay, Ontario and I drive the car 95% of the time and
> >>besides the odd trip back home which is 4 hours away, the car is driven
in
> >>the city. (if you can call North Bay a city.) I don't baby my car but I
> >>don't mistreat it either, it is a Honda and I use the horsepower when I
> >>need to. Oh yes, I've asked the service department person and he says
> >>that they have not received and bulletins on the master clutch cylinder
> >>for the 03-06 Accord.
> >>
> >>Thank you;
> >>
> >>
> >>Richard
> > Giving the benefit of the doubt on what looks a bit like a troll.
> >
> > When a clutch master cylinder (or slave cylinder) fails it fails in a
> > manner whereby the clutch is engaged all the time and will not
> > disengage when the pedal is pressed. The way you or your wife drives
> > has nothing to do with its longevity, other than the number of times
> > it is cycled. Its failure will not cause a grinder noise at the top
> > of the pedal stroke unless you are talking about shifting with a bad
> > cylinder in which case the gears would grind and you would not be able
> > to enter first gear when fully stopped. Or unless your clutch
> > pedal/bracket is in a bind in some manner.
> >
> > Premature failure of the clutch hydraulic system could only be caused
> > by initially faulty components or a foreign substance in the
> > hydraulics that wears out the piston packing and allows the hydraulic
> > fluid to bypass.
> >
> > My two Hondas both had failures of the clutch master at approximately
> > ten years and well over 100,000 miles. Your experience is not normal.
> > I would ask to see the removed offending component.
> >
> > Frank
>
>