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Old 15 Jan 2006, 12:00 pm
Frank
 
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Default Question on air compressor

Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!

I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work,
nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full
continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say,
15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base),
oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at
Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested
in using it for more powerful air tools.

I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would
this do the job?

Thanks again,

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...romSearch=true

If this link does not work, here are the details:

Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor
a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max
a.. 120V
a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm
a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"),
inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe
tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included
a.. Model No. 410788


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Old 15 Jan 2006, 12:17 pm
Professor
 
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Default Re: Question on air compressor

My opinion is that this unit is too small for your needs...

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

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Old 15 Jan 2006, 12:24 pm
« Paul »
 
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Default Re: Question on air compressor

Frank wrote:
>
> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
>
> I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work,
> nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full
> continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say,
> 15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base),
> oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at
> Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested
> in using it for more powerful air tools.
>
> I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would
> this do the job?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...romSearch=true
>
> If this link does not work, here are the details:
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor
> a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max
> a.. 120V
> a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm
> a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"),
> inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe
> tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included
> a.. Model No. 410788


CFM is not listed. Spray 10 seconds, wait 1 minute, spray 10
seconds, etc. I can tell you that it will be LOUD. You probably
won't want to use it in the garage.
My personal compressor is 2 cylinder, 3 hp, 30 gallon tank.
It will NOT keep up with my spray painter or air tools
if I use it continuously.
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Old 15 Jan 2006, 12:58 pm
Frank Boettcher
 
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:00:13 -0500, "Frank" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com> wrote:


><snipped>


You're going about this backwards. Determine what type of gun you
want to use (air atomized, HVLP Conversion or whatever)and what other
tools you might want to drive with it , get the cfm requirements for
those items then size the compressor to match the highest capacity
use.

BTW latex paint is much better applied with an airless rig.

Frank

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Old 15 Jan 2006, 01:27 pm
w9cw@yahoo.com
 
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Default Re: Question on air compressor

I have a 1.5HP 120PSI 3 Gal. tank DeVilbiss for use in my garage, and
it works fine. I only use it for tires and limited impact tool use.
When the compressor is running, it is loud, but it beats the heck out
of the alternative. In removing frozen bolts from brake calipers and
hubs, it's earn its keep many times. If you plan on extensive use of
any air tools or painting, I would strongly suggest a larger tank, as
per Paul's post above.

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Old 15 Jan 2006, 04:02 pm
Frank
 
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<w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137349634.915858.299100@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1.5HP 120PSI 3 Gal. tank DeVilbiss for use in my
>garage, and
> it works fine. I only use it for tires and limited impact tool
> use.
> When the compressor is running, it is loud, but it beats the
> heck out
> of the alternative. In removing frozen bolts from brake
> calipers and
> hubs, it's earn its keep many times. If you plan on extensive
> use of
> any air tools or painting, I would strongly suggest a larger
> tank, as
> per Paul's post above.


Thanks for the suggestion. I will pass then. Cheers!



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Old 15 Jan 2006, 04:28 pm
Michael Pardee
 
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"Frank" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:43ca7fd4@usenet.zapto.org...
> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
>
> I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work, nothing
> too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full continuous
> operation as long it can spray a few things in, say, 15 to 20 seconds
> burst, like: deck stain (light oil base), oil-based rust proofing (like
> light oil Rust Check sold at Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint.
> I am not interested in using it for more powerful air tools.
>
> I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would this do the
> job?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...romSearch=true
>
> If this link does not work, here are the details:
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor
> a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max
> a.. 120V
> a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm
> a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"), inflator gun, 2
> inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe tape (32.8") and 2 male
> coupler (1/4") also included
> a.. Model No. 410788
>
>

My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires.
As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people
like us is ungodly loud. I have a Craftsman 3hp max / 1.5 hp running, 15
gallon 8 cfm compressor in the garage. It requires hearing protection when
it is running and the neighbors have asked what all the noise is, even
though I keep the door closed while using it. All the noise comes from the
unmuffled air intake. I've looked for ways to enclose the intake so I can
muffle it, but I've seen nothing obvious yet.

Mike


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Old 15 Jan 2006, 06:08 pm
Dean Dark
 
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:28:31 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>"Frank" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:43ca7fd4@usenet.zapto.org...
>> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
>>
>> I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work, nothing
>> too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full continuous
>> operation as long it can ...


>My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires.
>As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people
>like us is ungodly loud.


I concur, though even inflating tires can be (haha) tiresome with a
small unit. Like many people, I bought a small compressor to start
with but rapidly found that I'd made a mistake.

I think my first one may have given acceptable performance with an
airbrush, or blowing up beach-balls and possibly bicycle tires.

I'm fortunate to live where there are no neighbo(u)rs within close
proximity. However, there are things you can do to muffle and contain
the noise, which is, I think, essentially the same as induction roar
on a combustion engine.
--
Dan.
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Old 15 Jan 2006, 06:19 pm
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Frank wrote:
> Hi there, fellow car enthusiasts!
>
> I am looking for a simple air compressor to do simple house work,
> nothing too heavy duty. Also, I do not really need to have full
> continuous operation as long it can spray a few things in, say,
> 15 to 20 seconds burst, like: deck stain (light oil base),
> oil-based rust proofing (like light oil Rust Check sold at
> Canadian Tire and elsewhere) and latex paint. I am not interested
> in using it for more powerful air tools.
>
> I am considering this air compressor from Canadian Tire. Would
> this do the job?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...romSearch=true
>
> If this link does not work, here are the details:
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 1/3-hp, 3-gallon Electric Air Compressor
> a.. 1/3-hp peak/3-gallon with 100-psi max
> a.. 120V
> a.. Pump: 3,000 rpm
> a.. 25' air hose with air chuck, one-touch coupler (1/4"),
> inflator gun, 2 inflation needles, inflation nozzle, Teflon pipe
> tape (32.8") and 2 male coupler (1/4") also included
> a.. Model No. 410788
>
>


I have the standup version of this:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...=1137366797070

The belt drive are a lot quieter - I've painted my race car at midnight
and didn't wake up the house (I have an attached garage.)

I know it's a little (lot more) more than the one you were looking at,
but that's what I have. (My wonderful wife got it for me for xmas about
6 years ago.)

The small tank = compressor always running.
That type of compressor = really loud.

When in doubt, check the cfm of your sprayer and the cfm of the
compressor. Unless you like painting in 30 second bursts, you need more
compressor cfm than tool cfm (or close) or a BIG tank. BUt even a big
tank only means you have to stop less often so it can pump up, whereas a
powerful enough motor can keep the tank full.

Consider renting one from somewhere like Home Depot?

Ray

Ray
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Old 15 Jan 2006, 06:20 pm
RSCamaro
 
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:28:31 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

<snip>
>My opinion is that a fractional hp unit is only useful for inflating tires.
>As mentioned, almost any compressor in the price range of ordinary people
>like us is ungodly loud. I have a Craftsman 3hp max / 1.5 hp running, 15
>gallon 8 cfm compressor in the garage. It requires hearing protection when
>it is running and the neighbors have asked what all the noise is, even
>though I keep the door closed while using it. All the noise comes from the
>unmuffled air intake. I've looked for ways to enclose the intake so I can
>muffle it, but I've seen nothing obvious yet.
>
>Mike


Have you thought about enclosing the whole unit in a wood framed box
that you insulate with inexpensive styrene or poly urethane foam
panels?

...Ron
--
68'RS Camaro
88'Formula
00'GT Mustang
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