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Old 25 Dec 2005, 03:39 am
jeremyje@gmail.com
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Default Aftermarket parts in new Civic with Warranty

I have a Civic VP 2005 and I want to install an aftermarket
powerlock+keyless entry system into it. I want to know if this will
void my warranty.

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Old 25 Dec 2005, 10:02 am
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<jeremyje@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Civic VP 2005 and I want to install an aftermarket
> powerlock+keyless entry system into it. I want to know if this will
> void my warranty.


Not unless there's a failure that can be traced back to the aftermarket part
or its installation. In your case for example, an engine failure could not
be reasonably related to the powerlock/keyless entry system. Some sort of
electrical problem, maybe, but even there it would have to be directly
proven.

Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties. Intake, exhaust
mods are a little more likely to void warranties, but even then, there has
to be reasonable cause.


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Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA


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Old 25 Dec 2005, 11:51 am
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Default Re: Aftermarket parts in new Civic with Warranty

Kent Finnell wrote:
> Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties.


a lift kit will, quite easily.
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Old 25 Dec 2005, 12:41 pm
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"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kent Finnell wrote:
>> Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties.

>
> a lift kit will, quite easily.


IF CLEARLY the mod caused the problem. Who raises Hondas anyway?

IIRC, SEMA made nice with the OEM and auto manufacturers several years ago
and came to mutual agreement that proper application of ordinary aftermarket
items would not void warranties. Of course the manufacturer's rep is going
to deny at first application, fully expecting the customer to meekly
retreat. Many do. If the customer press the issue, the warranty will stand
unless clear evidence shows that the modification did indeed cause the
problem. For example, the OP's installation of keyless entry could not
cause a brake failure.


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From the Music City USA





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Old 25 Dec 2005, 01:24 pm
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In article <hPArf.18423$kP5.7479@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
"Kent Finnell" <kentfinn@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Of course the manufacturer's rep is going
> to deny at first application, fully expecting the customer to meekly
> retreat. Many do.


Makes me think of Mitsubishi monitoring the web boards, looking for
people who race their Evos. Said cars immediately have the warranty
voided.

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Old 25 Dec 2005, 03:09 pm
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Kent Finnell wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5MidnQJYdpWLUzPeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>> Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties.

>> a lift kit will, quite easily.

>
> IF CLEARLY the mod caused the problem. Who raises Hondas anyway?


with hondas, sure. but with lifted trucks, unless you do it after the
warranty expires, youre assed out if you have a tranny, driveshaft, or
rear end related failure.
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Old 25 Dec 2005, 03:12 pm
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <hPArf.18423$kP5.7479@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> "Kent Finnell" <kentfinn@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course the manufacturer's rep is going
>> to deny at first application, fully expecting the customer to meekly
>> retreat. Many do.

>
> Makes me think of Mitsubishi monitoring the web boards, looking for
> people who race their Evos. Said cars immediately have the warranty
> voided.
>

mitsubishi, isuzu, suzuki will all likely be gone from the USA within 5
years anyway. theyre all dying.
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Old 25 Dec 2005, 10:17 pm
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"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kent Finnell wrote:
>> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5MidnQJYdpWLUzPeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>>> Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties.
>>> a lift kit will, quite easily.

>>
>> IF CLEARLY the mod caused the problem. Who raises Hondas anyway?

>
> with hondas, sure. but with lifted trucks, unless you do it after the
> warranty expires, youre assed out if you have a tranny, driveshaft, or
> rear end related failure.


Because the driveshaft angle changes to the point of causing damage to the
complex whole. Damage can also be caused by excessive lowering, using the
wrong off set on the wheels, etc. Every now and then I'll see a throwback
to what my daughter called "hot wheels cars" where some digit would put
deeply dished 12" wheels on a car and extend the wheels outside the wheel
wells. These were generally imports like Hondas and Toyotas. And they
really did look like oversized hot wheels cars.


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From the Music City USA


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Old 26 Dec 2005, 12:09 am
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Kent Finnell wrote:
> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:N-2dncxM8ajiYTPeRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>> "SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5MidnQJYdpWLUzPeRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
>>>> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>>>> Suspension mods, wheels & tires rarely void warranties.
>>>> a lift kit will, quite easily.
>>> IF CLEARLY the mod caused the problem. Who raises Hondas anyway?

>> with hondas, sure. but with lifted trucks, unless you do it after the
>> warranty expires, youre assed out if you have a tranny, driveshaft, or
>> rear end related failure.

>
> Because the driveshaft angle changes to the point of causing damage to the


not just that. throwing a set of superswampers with some nice aluminum
rims makes the outside diameter of the wheel/tire unit MUCH larger than
stock. this puts added stress on the tranny and rear especially to the
point where beefing up the actual parts is necessary.


> complex whole. Damage can also be caused by excessive lowering, using the
> wrong off set on the wheels, etc. Every now and then I'll see a throwback
> to what my daughter called "hot wheels cars" where some digit would put
> deeply dished 12" wheels on a car and extend the wheels outside the wheel
> wells. These were generally imports like Hondas and Toyotas. And they
> really did look like oversized hot wheels cars.


i still see some like that from time to time. im sure all that weird
geometry isnt good for the front bearings.
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Thanks for the help. I think it's funny how half of these responses
aren't even directed to my question but it has been answered.

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