Honda Car Forum

In article <1132727118.402686.294590@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
<do_not_spam_me@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>Don't be too enthused by the "Car of the Year" title since Motor Trend
>bases it more on market hype than vehicle merit, one of the worst
>examples being the Chevy Vega, their choice in 1971, and several years
>earlier they named the Toyota Corona as "Import Car of the Year" after
>Toyota paid for the entire year's circulation. At least with the Honda
>Civic is a good choice.
>


Let's not forget the Renault Alliance. Yew! That's one I'd like to forget.

Andy

"Pars" <sdaro(remove)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > > Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> > >
> > >> For the first time ever I own a cool car!
> > >
> > > Just curious, but who elected it as such?
> > >
> > > I figured it would be a toss-up between the Civic and the new Hyundai
> > > Sonata.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Motortrend
> >
>
> If the Si beats out the Corvette as best new sports car, It might also win
> car-of-year with AJAC association (which is for all of Canada).
>
> Pars
>
The SI is going to be tough to find as I understand from my local dealer.
It is limited production comprising something less than 5% of total Civic
production. Our local dealer has one coming in in mid Jan and then another
in late March -- both sold. If you want to put a deposit down now you are
looking at June/Jul next year. The RSX S is more available. However, as the
owner of an 01 Prelude I am simply going to hang onto what I have and be
happy. In fact our local dealer has 3 2005 S2000s on the lot..... so maybe.


>
> > --
> > Brandy Alexandre®
> > http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
> > Well, would you?
>
>

"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> TWW wrote:
> > "Brandy Alexandre" <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:Xns97179A21E5928675309@129.250.170.82...
> >
> >>KWW <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The one thing that bugs me about the "Car of the Year" award is
> >>>that it is for "new cars". Thus, if there are three crappy new
> >>>designs and one super excellent existing design car in a class,
> >>>the "car of the year" award goes to one of the three crappy ones
> >>>because they are newly designed.
> >>
> >>Okay you guys, quit peeing in my Cheerios. >
> >>
> >>--
> >>Brandy Alexandre®
> >>http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
> >>Well, would you?
> >
> >
> > From what I have read across the board, the Civic is getting very good
> > reviews. I looked over a 4-dr EX at our local dealer and liked it. I
will
> > be very interested to see the new SI and compare it with my Prelude.
> >
> >
> personally, i'd /not/ trade the prelude for the si unless i was only
> ever going to drive in straight lines. the si has a great motor, but
> the prelude has wishbones on all 4 corners. that's a fundamentally
> better suspension arrangement than the mcpherson garbage the bean
> counters have inflicted on the honda engineering team with the civic.
>
> don't get me wrong, mcpherson handles fine for average driving,
> freeways, etc. but if you ever drive hard, wishbone is the only
> way to go.
>
I do tend to throw the Prelude around like I used to when I autocrossed
years ago. I agree, the Prelude has a better suspension and is (from the
pix of the SI) a better looking car. The SI ought outperform the Prelude --
at least 0-60 but maybe not at top end. I really can't think of a step up
unless I get into a S2000.

TWW wrote:
> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
> news:c5ednRZ9y5LeqRreRVn-rw@speakeasy.net...
>
>>TWW wrote:
>>
>>>"Brandy Alexandre" <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns97179A21E5928675309@129.250.170.82...
>>>
>>>
>>>>KWW <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The one thing that bugs me about the "Car of the Year" award is
>>>>>that it is for "new cars". Thus, if there are three crappy new
>>>>>designs and one super excellent existing design car in a class,
>>>>>the "car of the year" award goes to one of the three crappy ones
>>>>>because they are newly designed.
>>>>
>>>>Okay you guys, quit peeing in my Cheerios. >
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Brandy Alexandre®
>>>>http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
>>>>Well, would you?
>>>
>>>
>>>From what I have read across the board, the Civic is getting very good
>>>reviews. I looked over a 4-dr EX at our local dealer and liked it. I
>
> will
>
>>>be very interested to see the new SI and compare it with my Prelude.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>personally, i'd /not/ trade the prelude for the si unless i was only
>>ever going to drive in straight lines. the si has a great motor, but
>>the prelude has wishbones on all 4 corners. that's a fundamentally
>>better suspension arrangement than the mcpherson garbage the bean
>>counters have inflicted on the honda engineering team with the civic.
>>
>>don't get me wrong, mcpherson handles fine for average driving,
>>freeways, etc. but if you ever drive hard, wishbone is the only
>>way to go.
>>
>
> I do tend to throw the Prelude around like I used to when I autocrossed
> years ago. I agree, the Prelude has a better suspension and is (from the
> pix of the SI) a better looking car. The SI ought outperform the Prelude --
> at least 0-60 but maybe not at top end. I really can't think of a step up
> unless I get into a S2000.
>
>
wish i could get into an s2000! not enough leg room.

TWW <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:

> I do tend to throw the Prelude around like I used to when I
> autocrossed years ago. I agree, the Prelude has a better
> suspension and is (from the pix of the SI) a better looking car.
> The SI ought outperform the Prelude -- at least 0-60 but maybe not
> at top end. I really can't think of a step up unless I get into a
> S2000.
>
>
>

Honestly, if I had been given more than three friggin' days to get a
new car (unless I wanted to pay for a rental myself), I would have
shopped for a Prelude. I was a big fan of the lavender one.

--
Brandy**Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:

>>
> wish i could get into an s2000! not enough leg room.
>

I looked at 'em, and at 5'3" I'm not sure *I* would have fit.

--
Brandy**Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Pars wrote:
>
> > If the Si beats out the Corvette as best new sports car, It might also
win
> > car-of-year with AJAC association (which is for all of Canada).
>
> i was reading somewhere that the C6 is better and cheaper than the C5,
> yet its not selling as well. what gives?

Strange. That C6 is one hot commodity. There seems to be more then usual on
the mean streets of Toronto. I guess in other parts, it's not doing as
well... Perhaps, one day when I win the Lotto, I'll get myself one. (Unless
Honda comes out with a coupe version of the S2000 with a more spacious
cockpit).

Pars

The wishbone suspension is why I loved my '96 Civic.... until my eldest son
totaled it.... a very sad day.
--
KWW

"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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> TWW wrote:
>> "Brandy Alexandre" <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97179A21E5928675309@129.250.170.82...
>>
>>>KWW <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The one thing that bugs me about the "Car of the Year" award is
>>>>that it is for "new cars". Thus, if there are three crappy new
>>>>designs and one super excellent existing design car in a class,
>>>>the "car of the year" award goes to one of the three crappy ones
>>>>because they are newly designed.
>>>
>>>Okay you guys, quit peeing in my Cheerios. >
>>>
>>>--
>>>Brandy Alexandre®
>>>http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
>>>Well, would you?
>>
>>
>> From what I have read across the board, the Civic is getting very good
>> reviews. I looked over a 4-dr EX at our local dealer and liked it. I
>> will
>> be very interested to see the new SI and compare it with my Prelude.
>>
>>
> personally, i'd /not/ trade the prelude for the si unless i was only
> ever going to drive in straight lines. the si has a great motor, but
> the prelude has wishbones on all 4 corners. that's a fundamentally
> better suspension arrangement than the mcpherson garbage the bean
> counters have inflicted on the honda engineering team with the civic.
>
> don't get me wrong, mcpherson handles fine for average driving,
> freeways, etc. but if you ever drive hard, wishbone is the only
> way to go.
>

KWW wrote:

> The one thing that bugs me about the "Car of the Year" award is that it is
> for "new cars". Thus, if there are three crappy new designs and one super
> excellent existing design car in a class, the "car of the year" award goes
> to one of the three crappy ones because they are newly designed.

Just like the Oscars, Tonys, Emmys, etc. Only good for that year's product.

jim beam wrote:

> TWW wrote:
>
>> "Brandy Alexandre" <brandyalx@kittylittercomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97179A21E5928675309@129.250.170.82...
>>
>>> KWW <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in rec.autos.makers.honda:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The one thing that bugs me about the "Car of the Year" award is
>>>> that it is for "new cars". Thus, if there are three crappy new
>>>> designs and one super excellent existing design car in a class,
>>>> the "car of the year" award goes to one of the three crappy ones
>>>> because they are newly designed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay you guys, quit peeing in my Cheerios. >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brandy Alexandre®
>>> http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
>>> Well, would you?
>>
>>
>>
>> From what I have read across the board, the Civic is getting very good
>> reviews. I looked over a 4-dr EX at our local dealer and liked it. I
>> will
>> be very interested to see the new SI and compare it with my Prelude.
>>
>>
> personally, i'd /not/ trade the prelude for the si unless i was only
> ever going to drive in straight lines. the si has a great motor, but
> the prelude has wishbones on all 4 corners. that's a fundamentally
> better suspension arrangement than the mcpherson garbage the bean
> counters have inflicted on the honda engineering team with the civic.
>
> don't get me wrong, mcpherson handles fine for average driving,
> freeways, etc. but if you ever drive hard, wishbone is the only
> way to go.

Gee, the Porsche 911 series had McPherson struts up front for years
(starting when they were first shown in 1963 and still have them for all
I know). IMHO the 911's are regarded as handling pretty well.