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Help!
I have a 1993 Honda accord. 4 cyl. 16 valve... I have oil in all 4
plugs. I not talking about a little either, There is a good amount. I
did put new spark plugs in
She is running, but is not very happy about doing so. The shaking is
like high speed on a washer and the shaking seems to subside some as i
get to about 50 mph.
what is wrong with her? Why is this happening? Did I do something to
her that would have made this happen? I very worried. She my only car.
Please help!!!
Thank you so much,
Karrie

karrie wrote:
> Help!
> I have a 1993 Honda accord. 4 cyl. 16 valve... I have oil in all 4
> plugs. I not talking about a little either, There is a good amount. I
> did put new spark plugs in
> She is running, but is not very happy about doing so. The shaking is
> like high speed on a washer and the shaking seems to subside some as i
> get to about 50 mph.
> what is wrong with her? Why is this happening? Did I do something to
> her that would have made this happen? I very worried. She my only car.
> Please help!!!
> Thank you so much,
> Karrie

Rings shot. Oil fouling on plugs means no spark. Sounds like you've
about hit the end of the line on this engine.

On 1 Nov 2005 15:28:56 -0800, "karrie" <karrie@weedotart.com> wrote:

>Help!
>I have a 1993 Honda accord. 4 cyl. 16 valve... I have oil in all 4
>plugs. I not talking about a little either, There is a good amount. I
>did put new spark plugs in
>She is running, but is not very happy about doing so. The shaking is
>like high speed on a washer and the shaking seems to subside some as i
>get to about 50 mph.
>what is wrong with her? Why is this happening? Did I do something to
>her that would have made this happen? I very worried. She my only car.
>Please help!!!
>Thank you so much,
>Karrie


Do you mean oil in the port on the outside of the head. I mean when
you pull the plug wire off is it covered with oil and there is oil in
the cavity. If so, you need a new valve cover gasket set that also
has gaskets to keep oil from going into the plug cavities.

Shake could come from a number of causes. Poor tire balance, bad
inside cv joint (mostly on acceleration), way out of time (slipped
timing belt) and other causes.

If you mean that the oil is on the insided of the head/cylinder much
bigger problem. Of course if that is the case, your tail pipe should
be resembling a mosquito fogger. If that is the case you could be
missing from the plugs fouling out and that is causing the shake.

ok , so i need a new engine or something fixed in it?
-karrie

As I pulled the plug wires out they where filled with oil , the plugs
where coverd too.
Shaking is also going on as I'm a stop light. I feel that it has
something to do with the plugs some how. When I put the new ones in the
shaking and jumping stoped for about 10 min. of driving time . Then
came back again.....oh, hum....
But my tail pipe is not smoking. Is that good or bad?
See she a 1993 she got some age to her she has 180k so a valve job ?
I have 16 of them... Is that alot of money? Head and cylinder that
sounds like alot too..
thank you for taking your time to answer my question.

_Karrie

"karrie" <karrie@weedotart.com> wrote in
news:1130890330.969501.302370@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> As I pulled the plug wires out they where filled with oil , the plugs
> where coverd too.


WHERE were they "covered"?

On the threaded part? Above the hex nut part?





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It's fairly common for Hondas with this many miles and years on them to have
leaks at one or two rubber seals per spark plug tube. If you take off one of
the ignition wires again, and peer into the hole with a flashlight, one of
the seals should be very obvious (it's right at the hole entrance). The
other is only an O-ring and is a couple inches further down. You should
still be able to see or feel it. I confirmed your 93 Accord does have both
of these seals, using an online parts site that has drawings.

For further description, see
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id3.html

The easier seal to replace is the upper one. It should cost you no more than
about $75. If you're a little handy you could do these upper seals yourself.

The more difficult seal to replace should take around two to four hours of
Honda book labor. The technician will have to adjust your 16 valves, too.
It's not a beginner job. If you know how to set the valve lash, then you
could do it.

I would be surprised if the valves or rings needed replacement, assuming
you've generally maintained this car well.

"karrie" <karrie@weedotart.com> wrote
> As I pulled the plug wires out they where filled with oil , the plugs
> where coverd too.
> Shaking is also going on as I'm a stop light. I feel that it has
> something to do with the plugs some how. When I put the new ones in the
> shaking and jumping stoped for about 10 min. of driving time . Then
> came back again.....oh, hum....
> But my tail pipe is not smoking. Is that good or bad?
> See she a 1993 she got some age to her she has 180k so a valve job ?
> I have 16 of them... Is that alot of money? Head and cylinder that
> sounds like alot too..
> thank you for taking your time to answer my question.
>
> _Karrie
>

I would get the valve cover gasket changed out. Maybe the oil is creating a
short to ground with your sparkplug wires??

chris


"karrie" <karrie@weedotart.com> wrote in message
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> As I pulled the plug wires out they where filled with oil , the plugs
> where coverd too.
> Shaking is also going on as I'm a stop light. I feel that it has
> something to do with the plugs some how. When I put the new ones in the
> shaking and jumping stoped for about 10 min. of driving time . Then
> came back again.....oh, hum....
> But my tail pipe is not smoking. Is that good or bad?
> See she a 1993 she got some age to her she has 180k so a valve job ?
> I have 16 of them... Is that alot of money? Head and cylinder that
> sounds like alot too..
> thank you for taking your time to answer my question.
>
> _Karrie
>

karrie wrote:
> As I pulled the plug wires out they where filled with oil , the plugs
> where coverd too.

new valve cover gasket, with o-rings. simple job at an independant mechanic.

> Shaking is also going on as I'm a stop light. I feel that it has
> something to do with the plugs some how. When I put the new ones in the
> shaking and jumping stoped for about 10 min. of driving time . Then
> came back again.....oh, hum....

whens the last time its had new plug wires, rotor, and distributor cap?
basic "major tuneup" stuff, but not expensive. it also directly affects
idle quality.

> But my tail pipe is not smoking. Is that good or bad?

good!
> See she a 1993 she got some age to her she has 180k so a valve job ?
> I have 16 of them... Is that alot of money? Head and cylinder that
> sounds like alot too..
> thank you for taking your time to answer my question.
>
> _Karrie
>

I have a 93 accord, and while changing the spark plugs I noticed oil on
one of the wires when I pulled the spark plug wire. When I pulled the
plug out, there was oil on the inside of the plug as well. I was a bit
concerned at that, but someone mentioned when unscrewing and pulling
the spark plug, the oil on the top would seep into the inside half of
the plug. I did change the valve cover gasket and the O-seals myself.
Car is fine.

It is a little surprising that you have all four seals leaking.
I would definitely try the gasket and O ring seals first as it is the
cheapest fix.

Please only buy the genuine Honda parts and you don't have to use any
sealant.
I think the gasket plus O-ring seals would be about $40 dollars.

If you need more specific info on changing this I can dig this info up
for you. Pls send an email.

Good Luck
Roshan